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paulc 23-01-2010 03:12 PM

acetone
 
hi guys

been using acetone for quite some time now for tyre removal took some mini pins out today witch had been in a couple of days and they have gone BIG the wheel near enough falls through the tyre yet i had some mini spikes in there with i forgot about since before christmas and there fine !!

this is the first time this has happened anybody else had this happen ??

cheers paul

Cooper 23-01-2010 03:27 PM

cut away most of the tire first so you can recover the inserts...
And yes, after several days it becomes bigger, I don't care I won't use it anymore.

madmax 23-01-2010 03:58 PM

ive had this happen to me as far as i know it is due to the chemical reaction between the tyre compound and the acitone

paulc 23-01-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper (Post 334983)
cut away most of the tire first so you can recover the inserts...
And yes, after several days it becomes bigger, I don't care I won't use it anymore.

i usually do cut the rest of the tyre off but i wanted these tyres just seems stange never happened before with the same acetone

moth898 23-01-2010 04:54 PM

I use acetone at work. Its a very damaging agent both for for the material its used on and the user's health. If you rub, a acetone soaked rag, on plastic you'll see the plastic will slowly start to rub of onto the rag. It's a very strong chemical, don't let the cool feeling on your skin fool you. I'm guessing the tyres inner sponge got soaked with some acetone, so once the tyre was re-instaled, the remaining liquid couldn't evaporate safely away. What was left stayed inside the tyre and weakened the rubber and they ballooned up. Acetone is a corrosive agent, look on the bottle it came in. I wouldn't use it!!!! Don't inhale that stuff, its very bad for your health.

Try using some dish soap and water letting your rims soak for a week, thats what I did back in the day. Of course you could also but new rims, they're not all that expensive these days, the price is worth your health I think.

paulc 23-01-2010 05:04 PM

i have kept my acetone in a plastic container for atleast a year containers still fine

i just make sure i was the tyres , wheels , hands in hot soapy water after removing the tyres

moth898 23-01-2010 06:31 PM

acetone is sometimes packaged in plastic containers because not all plastics are affected by it. I'm sure if you rub the tire with acetone it will start to melt.

bigred5765 23-01-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 335010)
I use acetone at work. Its a very damaging agent both for for the material its used on and the user's health. If you rub, a acetone soaked rag, on plastic you'll see the plastic will slowly start to rub of onto the rag. It's a very strong chemical, don't let the cool feeling on your skin fool you. I'm guessing the tyres inner sponge got soaked with some acetone, so once the tyre was re-instaled, the remaining liquid couldn't evaporate safely away. What was left stayed inside the tyre and weakened the rubber and they ballooned up. Acetone is a corrosive agent, look on the bottle it came in. I wouldn't use it!!!! Don't inhale that stuff, its very bad for your health.

Try using some dish soap and water letting your rims soak for a week, thats what I did back in the day. Of course you could also but new rims, they're not all that expensive these days, the price is worth your health I think.

it doesn't harm the rims at all.but i would remover foams and excess tyres before they go in,foams can be rung out and let dry but i never do any more,and always, always use a good glove, it doesn't melt the tyres ether but there pretty much knacked if you soak them in acetone as it removes the natural oil in them,

DanW 23-01-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 335010)
Acetone is a corrosive agent, look on the bottle it came in. I wouldn't use it!!!!

It is an irritant and highly flammable. The greatest risk from it inhaling the vapours which are quiet nasty - but work in a well ventilated area - like outside!

It "de-fats" the skin, so avoid contact - use a hook to fish out your rims.

I wouldn't want to use it day in day out. But dropping some rims in it once in while isn't going to kill you. t

DCM 24-01-2010 12:32 AM

I have a small sealed container in the work room, and it remains that way, I have a 5litre can of it in the shed, and thats where that stays.

It won't harm you if you spill a little on your hand, it will remove any oils from your skin, but as long as it is only a one off, you be fine, you get your hands in the tub and work the tyres, it will crack the skin open and harm the skin. The fumes will also burn your eyes, airways, and cause scarring in there, it will also suffocate you in more extreme cases.

plod 24-01-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DanW (Post 335102)
It "de-fats" the skin, so avoid contact

So can I smear myself in it?
I'm getting fed up of eating all this salad :woot::woot::woot:

rbridd 27-01-2010 02:16 PM

Just to add a small voice of reason to all this doom and gloom.
Acetone is NAIL VARNISH REMOVER.
Women have been rubbing it on their hands for decades.

I don't think I'd want to wash myself in it, or breath it in industrial quantities, but lets get a grip here.

Secondly, It's the fumes which do the job. You don't need to immerse your wheel and tyre in an acetone bath.
I put a small amount of acetone, maybe 5mm deep at the bottom of a container. pile up all my wheels and tyres on a platform above the acetone bath, seal the top of the container, and leave for 24 hours.
wheel damage is kept to a minimum.
Some wheel plastics soften, but if you leave them a few days, the plastic toughens up again, and you can still peel the rubber from the rims, because the composition of the superglue has been changed permanently.

This way, you only need small amounts of acetone to do the job.

Hope this helps.

Chrislong 27-01-2010 03:30 PM

I pull wheels out of it with my teeth, I don't even close my eyes. Does me no harm. :thumbsup::blush:

Seriously though, I think we're all aware its harmful - so its handled accordingly, but it does a great job and saves a lot of money in buying new wheels.

andys 27-01-2010 06:10 PM

Hell. I'm scared of my acetone now !

I always just put my hands into the tub and pull the tyres off, I did quite like the cold sensation....

Always wash my hands afterwards in some nice warm soapy water.

bigred5765 27-01-2010 06:43 PM

always wear gloves thats a must,and never get it in your eyes,or mouth its very very bad that way,and for your info nail varnish remover is acetone diluted with a mineral oil, IE rapeseed oil or sun flour oil, thats helps stop it attacking your skin,

paulc 07-03-2010 01:08 AM

is it ok to put schumacher blue compound in acetone ?

moth898 07-03-2010 02:38 AM

Dude, boil your wheels for 20 minutes in water then throw them into ice water and you'll be able to pop the tires off the rims right away. Don'y let the tires cool in the ice water, it has to be done as the rims are hot and the rubber cold.

Chris Griffiths 07-03-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DanW (Post 335102)

It "de-fats" the skin




Hmmmmm, bath in acetone before the beach then! If I'm dead skinny at the next southport meeting I got hold of 100 litres of acetone!!!


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