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sirsomrak 28-04-2009 06:03 PM

help in choosing first 4wd buggy
 
im a beginner and would like to venture into 4wd elctric buggy.after reading oople buggy reviews ,im thinking of getting tamiya durga or kyosho zx5.durga is newer then the zx5 but zx5 seems like a nice one too.cant decide.

3975dave 28-04-2009 06:13 PM

I'm a bit biased towards the Durga as I run one, but, in my opinion its a better car and its tougher than the ZX5. Plenty of Durgas running at our club now and many have changed from the ZX5 to the Durga. Its a great beginers car and can also be very competetive.

Hth, Dave.

qatmix 28-04-2009 07:29 PM

I'd go for the Durga, the only two zx5's ive seen run have both suffered the same problem (front part of the chassis snaps off).

The Durga is a top car..

Ahem, I have a brand unbuilt new one in the box I am selling as well, although thats not the reason I recommend it. Its my brothers and he isnt able to commit to racing this year.

General Accident 28-04-2009 08:11 PM

If you are on a strict budget and won't be running a powerul motor I'd vote for a Durga, even better if you could get one with the "must have" hop-ups ready built ie, alloy hingepin mounts and slipper. If you have around £200 what about the HPI Cyber 10B?

FERRETTI 28-04-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsomrak (Post 235504)
im a beginner and would like to venture into 4wd elctric buggy.after reading oople buggy reviews ,im thinking of getting tamiya durga or kyosho zx5.durga is newer then the zx5 but zx5 seems like a nice one too.cant decide.

As a returning racer after some 10 years away from the sport I have chosen a DB01 Durga as my 4WD model. My reason for this choice was due to the fact that it accepts LiPo stick packs which means I can run the same cells as I do in my 2WD, however I would not have purchased it if I had not been convinced of its capabilities.

For a beginner I believe that the DB01 offers many advantages not least of all its reported durability, but far and away what I believe to be the biggest advantage of this particular model is its ability to be upgraded as your skills and finances allow. Out of the box the car I have no doubt will meet the needs of a novice driver (not too quick as to be off putting but still fast enough to be fun) with the addition of only a few reasonably priced upgrades as mentioned previously the car will perform to the standard of pretty much any model in its class as Jimmy's review and contribution to the Durga thread testifies.

sirsomrak 29-04-2009 03:21 AM

ya durga is durable.Ive seen many durga crashes on youtube and they just keep moving without any breakages.but i wonder whether the belt driven transmission is durable and its maintanence based on you guy's experience.another thing ,like kyosho whre its front part is prone to damages, what part of durga is its weakpoint?

sirsomrak 29-04-2009 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Accident (Post 235585)
If you are on a strict budget and won't be running a powerul motor I'd vote for a Durga, even better if you could get one with the "must have" hop-ups ready built ie, alloy hingepin mounts and slipper. If you have around £200 what about the HPI Cyber 10B?


thats a nice buggy too.Unfortunately,its way over my bugdet.haha.so i will hav to keep tat in my dreams.hehe

sirsomrak 29-04-2009 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qatmix (Post 235545)
I'd go for the Durga, the only two zx5's ive seen run have both suffered the same problem (front part of the chassis snaps off).

The Durga is a top car..

Ahem, I have a brand unbuilt new one in the box I am selling as well, although thats not the reason I recommend it. Its my brothers and he isnt able to commit to racing this year.


wat do u mean by snaps??its breaks apart?i thought the zx5 is one of the toughest buggy around.

Spoolio 29-04-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sirsomrak (Post 235692)
ya durga is durable.Ive seen many durga crashes on youtube and they just keep moving without any breakages.but i wonder whether the belt driven transmission is durable and its maintanence based on you guy's experience.another thing ,like kyosho whre its front part is prone to damages, what part of durga is its weakpoint?

Out of the box and fitted with the kit motor the only "weak point" is inner hingepin mountings for the lower arms as the pins are held in by a plastic block that is relatively flexible. If you snag a corner it can pull the pin out so you'll "lose" that corner. Most times it all just fits back together if you can find all the bits out on the track. The 3Racing alloy mounts will fix this at less than half the price of the Tamiya upgrades.

All the other stuff only starts to become necessary as you put more power throught the drivetrain. The rear diff is a bit iffy once you get into motors lower than 10.5T (brushless) and a slipper is always a good thing to have but its not essential if you are gentle on the throttle.

sim 29-04-2009 06:33 AM

If you can get HPI parts, you can consider a Cyber 10B (not to be confused with Brahma 10B).

If you like saddle packs, and can get Yokomo parts, you can consider a B-Max 4.

If you like Tamiya, get the DB-01 Baldre or Durga. Baldre shell fits the chassis better in my opinion. As mentioned, this buggy has slightly weak suspension arm mounts but once upgraded, it's a tank.

DCM 29-04-2009 08:00 AM

the other consideration, with the DB-01, is the fact that the wheels are available in almost all shops... as the Losi XX4 wheels are a direct fit.

ANGEL.ONE 29-04-2009 08:14 AM

quite fancied a DB01 myself, can they be run str8 out the box 9000kV+ brushless?!

DCM 29-04-2009 08:52 AM

no... you will mash the rear diff...

sirsomrak 29-04-2009 09:00 AM

yay ,durga will hav street tires cuz my neighbourhood lack those offroad terrains.anyways,how about the jumping capabilities of the durga compared to the kyosho zx5? And does kyosho hav strreet tires for the zx5??

ANGEL.ONE 29-04-2009 09:37 AM

what modifications are required to DB01 to make safe for high power brushless?
1/10 buggies, in the main, are equipped with 2.2 wheels of some sort for which there are an abundance of tyres to choose from. schumachers and ballistics are popular for dirt type terrain, and apparently traxxas (modelsport.co.uk) do a nice line in street tyres, though these i ain't tried.

peetbee 29-04-2009 09:55 AM

To run more powerful brushless motors you need to get IMO slipper clutch and upgrade the rear diff outputs to the alloy ones from the TRF501.
Other than that it'll be fine!

ANGEL.ONE 29-04-2009 09:56 AM

thanks for info on DB01 upgrades, very tempting, think i'd want metal shocks of some sort though, and a centre one-way (an extra £120 inc slipper and the ever elusive 501 diff?).

peetbee 29-04-2009 11:15 AM

For better shocks just stick a set of Associated B4 shocks straight on, you'll pick a set up for around £20 on here

ANGEL.ONE 29-04-2009 12:21 PM

FAO sirsomrak...

"had a Durga running for about 2 weeks now, and I must say the car is magnificent! It's definitely gonna put Tamiya back on the map for club racers. In fact, I don't think there is a sub $300 car that could even touch this thing. We have a Lazer ZX-5 for comparison and the DB01 seems to be right on par (for almost half the price). In fact, the kit spec DB01 easily out-maneuvers the kit-spec ZX-5"
www.radiocontrolzone.com 20.12.2007 (thread no. 244025)

sirsomrak 29-04-2009 12:34 PM

thx angel.one.juz worried about which buggy is easier to master its jumping skills.i juz started ya now.also on transmission wear and tear.i dunt wan to owes change those belts and pulleys.but i guess durga is the way to go.


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