help in choosing first 4wd buggy

[sirsomrak]

im a beginner and would like to venture into 4wd elctric buggy.after reading oople buggy reviews ,im thinking of getting tamiya durga or kyosho zx5.durga is newer then the zx5 but zx5 seems like a nice one too.cant decide.

[3975dave]

I'm a bit biased towards the Durga as I run one, but, in my opinion its a better car and its tougher than the ZX5. Plenty of Durgas running at our club now and many have changed from the ZX5 to the Durga. Its a great beginers car and can also be very competetive.

Hth, Dave.

[qatmix]

I'd go for the Durga, the only two zx5's ive seen run have both suffered the same problem (front part of the chassis snaps off).

The Durga is a top car..

Ahem, I have a brand unbuilt new one in the box I am selling as well, although thats not the reason I recommend it. Its my brothers and he isnt able to commit to racing this year.

[General Accident]

If you are on a strict budget and won't be running a powerul motor I'd vote for a Durga, even better if you could get one with the "must have" hop-ups ready built ie, alloy hingepin mounts and slipper. If you have around £200 what about the HPI Cyber 10B?

[FERRETTI]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

im a beginner and would like to venture into 4wd elctric buggy.after reading oople buggy reviews ,im thinking of getting tamiya durga or kyosho zx5.durga is newer then the zx5 but zx5 seems like a nice one too.cant decide.

As a returning racer after some 10 years away from the sport I have chosen a DB01 Durga as my 4WD model. My reason for this choice was due to the fact that it accepts LiPo stick packs which means I can run the same cells as I do in my 2WD, however I would not have purchased it if I had not been convinced of its capabilities.

For a beginner I believe that the DB01 offers many advantages not least of all its reported durability, but far and away what I believe to be the biggest advantage of this particular model is its ability to be upgraded as your skills and finances allow. Out of the box the car I have no doubt will meet the needs of a novice driver (not too quick as to be off putting but still fast enough to be fun) with the addition of only a few reasonably priced upgrades as mentioned previously the car will perform to the standard of pretty much any model in its class as Jimmy's review and contribution to the Durga thread testifies.

[sirsomrak]

ya durga is durable.Ive seen many durga crashes on youtube and they just keep moving without any breakages.but i wonder whether the belt driven transmission is durable and its maintanence based on you guy's experience.another thing ,like kyosho whre its front part is prone to damages, what part of durga is its weakpoint?

[sirsomrak]

Originally Posted by General Accident

If you are on a strict budget and won't be running a powerul motor I'd vote for a Durga, even better if you could get one with the "must have" hop-ups ready built ie, alloy hingepin mounts and slipper. If you have around £200 what about the HPI Cyber 10B?

thats a nice buggy too.Unfortunately,its way over my bugdet.haha.so i will hav to keep tat in my dreams.hehe

[sirsomrak]

Originally Posted by qatmix

I'd go for the Durga, the only two zx5's ive seen run have both suffered the same problem (front part of the chassis snaps off).

The Durga is a top car..

Ahem, I have a brand unbuilt new one in the box I am selling as well, although thats not the reason I recommend it. Its my brothers and he isnt able to commit to racing this year.

wat do u mean by snaps??its breaks apart?i thought the zx5 is one of the toughest buggy around.

[Spoolio]

Originally Posted by sirsomrak

ya durga is durable.Ive seen many durga crashes on youtube and they just keep moving without any breakages.but i wonder whether the belt driven transmission is durable and its maintanence based on you guy's experience.another thing ,like kyosho whre its front part is prone to damages, what part of durga is its weakpoint?

Out of the box and fitted with the kit motor the only "weak point" is inner hingepin mountings for the lower arms as the pins are held in by a plastic block that is relatively flexible. If you snag a corner it can pull the pin out so you'll "lose" that corner. Most times it all just fits back together if you can find all the bits out on the track. The 3Racing alloy mounts will fix this at less than half the price of the Tamiya upgrades.

All the other stuff only starts to become necessary as you put more power throught the drivetrain. The rear diff is a bit iffy once you get into motors lower than 10.5T (brushless) and a slipper is always a good thing to have but its not essential if you are gentle on the throttle.

[sim]

If you can get HPI parts, you can consider a Cyber 10B (not to be confused with Brahma 10B).

If you like saddle packs, and can get Yokomo parts, you can consider a B-Max 4.

If you like Tamiya, get the DB-01 Baldre or Durga. Baldre shell fits the chassis better in my opinion. As mentioned, this buggy has slightly weak suspension arm mounts but once upgraded, it's a tank.

[DCM]

the other consideration, with the DB-01, is the fact that the wheels are available in almost all shops... as the Losi XX4 wheels are a direct fit.

[ANGEL.ONE]

quite fancied a DB01 myself, can they be run str8 out the box 9000kV+ brushless?!

[DCM]

no... you will mash the rear diff...

[sirsomrak]

yay ,durga will hav street tires cuz my neighbourhood lack those offroad terrains.anyways,how about the jumping capabilities of the durga compared to the kyosho zx5? And does kyosho hav strreet tires for the zx5??

[ANGEL.ONE]

what modifications are required to DB01 to make safe for high power brushless?
1/10 buggies, in the main, are equipped with 2.2 wheels of some sort for which there are an abundance of tyres to choose from. schumachers and ballistics are popular for dirt type terrain, and apparently traxxas (modelsport.co.uk) do a nice line in street tyres, though these i ain't tried.

[peetbee]

To run more powerful brushless motors you need to get IMO slipper clutch and upgrade the rear diff outputs to the alloy ones from the TRF501.
Other than that it'll be fine!

[ANGEL.ONE]

thanks for info on DB01 upgrades, very tempting, think i'd want metal shocks of some sort though, and a centre one-way (an extra £120 inc slipper and the ever elusive 501 diff?).

[peetbee]

For better shocks just stick a set of Associated B4 shocks straight on, you'll pick a set up for around £20 on here

[ANGEL.ONE]

FAO sirsomrak...

"had a Durga running for about 2 weeks now, and I must say the car is magnificent! It's definitely gonna put Tamiya back on the map for club racers. In fact, I don't think there is a sub $300 car that could even touch this thing. We have a Lazer ZX-5 for comparison and the DB01 seems to be right on par (for almost half the price). In fact, the kit spec DB01 easily out-maneuvers the kit-spec ZX-5"
www.radiocontrolzone.com 20.12.2007 (thread no. 244025)

[sirsomrak]

thx angel.one.juz worried about which buggy is easier to master its jumping skills.i juz started ya now.also on transmission wear and tear.i dunt wan to owes change those belts and pulleys.but i guess durga is the way to go.