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dave p hall 26-05-2008 05:08 PM

give marshal's a chance to...
 
one thing i have noticed,and have been guilty of it myself,but don't do it now.don't touch your control's when a marshal is putting your car back on track.not nice if your the marshal;)let him/her get there hand's clear first:)just think its worth pointing out.

Garry Driffill 26-05-2008 05:15 PM

I had some eager beaver do this to me and hurt my thumb a year or so ago indoor at york. It bloody hurt ! :lol:

mole2k 26-05-2008 05:22 PM

Thats one thing that really annoys me when marshaling. If I make a mistake I dont touch the controls untill the car has been set down and the marshal is clear. It's just really ignorant to keep the throttle planted while on your lid...

ashleyb4 26-05-2008 05:29 PM

I think it sok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attension if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

ben 26-05-2008 05:30 PM

I saw someone do this to greg williams yesterday :thumbdown:

James 26-05-2008 05:34 PM

I think generally the quality of marshalling is BAD, its something thats struck me since i've started racing again..

A lot of folks just seem to sit there thinking about the previous race they've just had rather than where they are now and being alert and ready to correct a car as soon as possible, a number of drivers rev the car to get marshalls attention though..

If you want to see how to be a good marshall watch Andy Fraser, he's the master.. I do try hard myself though..

Everyone should try harder and be more alert to what's hapening and where a car is likely to crash and be ready.

We should give trophies/rewards or something for good marshalling..tricky one to penalise bad marshalling unless its blatent.

ashleyb4 26-05-2008 05:36 PM

James you should try micro thats worse. Craig harris is really good at marshalling He is like a coilled spring ready to pounce.:p:p:p


A

AaronR 26-05-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 127597)
I think it's ok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attention if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

This is plenty acceptable and how it should be done. If a car has any throttle on while I marshal, I make myself heard by pretty much YELLING, "LAY OFF THE THROTTLE!"

ashleyb4 26-05-2008 05:37 PM

At regionals and club i wont marshall the car if there on the trottle but at naionals i just marshall it because i dont want to get in trouble.

rcracer 26-05-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 127604)
At regionals and club i wont marshall the car if there on the trottle but at naionals i just marshall it because i dont want to get in trouble.

i dont think it matters what level it is ash they shouldnt be revving the throttle while your hands are anywere near it :thumbdown:

bert digler 26-05-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 127597)
I think it sok to rev your motor if your stuck upsidedown and trying to get the marshall attension if there looking the other way but as soon as the marshall runs towards it you should be on full brake until they have put you down.

A

ash if you rev your car mate it will only piss the marshall off it does me and also you stand a chance of blowing out them tires:lol:

Sabben 26-05-2008 05:48 PM

Hm... Actually I have never thought about this. Good tip, I must say!

I will doubtless have this in mind next time when I am marshalling, and driving of course! It is silly to yell at someone when you do the same stupid thing yourself!;)

Southwell 26-05-2008 05:48 PM

It's the people that rev it even when you've seen it that annoys me, then even when they brake the front wheels are still spinning. If they rev it when im just about to pick it up i wait until they stop, if they rev it when i have it in my hand ill have a word afterwards.

reg 26-05-2008 05:52 PM

when i raced nitro we reved it to get there attentionas you say then just put the brakes on,some times you have to blip the throttle to stop the engine stopping,if a car was reving the engine we would just leave it:mad:,if they reved it up before you put it down than next time they needed turning over just do it with your foot,:thumbsup:
mark

PaulRotheram 26-05-2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 127610)
It's the people that rev it even when you've seen it that annoys me, then even when they brake the front wheels are still spinning. If they rev it when im just about to pick it up i wait until they stop, if they rev it when i have it in my hand ill have a word afterwards.

If they rev it in my hands, it gets dropped. No matter which position it's in, hopefuly at an angle likely to break it to teach them a lesson! :thumbdown:

AndyM 26-05-2008 06:12 PM

I was suprised, but i had to marshal a car that did this in the A final at South Shields yesterday. I'm not going to name and shame him, but i thought the driver was above this sort of thing :thumbdown:

For some reason i picked it up though :thumbdown:

I think what Ashely said is acceptable though.

Chrislong 26-05-2008 06:19 PM

If someone is revving the car when you need to marshall it, then don't touch it..... it could be the worlds championships, don't touch it guys, it'll burn for weeks and probably scar!!

At Oswestry, Chis Bowater crashed just before the loop on the last lap where I was marshalling, I could see his adrenalin was at peak and I was as quick as could be, but he applied full throttle a fraction too soon and a tyre caught my wrist slightly, only very slightly, and im sure Boggy didn't mean it as I know he's not like that, so I said nothing, but it left a slight mark which stung like a small burn.... it just shows how much the spinning tyres can hurt if the tyre is in full contact with skin.

I get very frustrated when I crash, and I used to apply throttle in frustration at myself. I now wiggle my steering instead. Although to get somebodies attention I may give the throttle a blast but get on the brakes once seen.

Chris

Chrislong 26-05-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smOkin (Post 127599)
If you want to see how to be a good marshall watch Andy Fraser, he's the master.. I do try hard myself though..

No there should not be awards for good marshalling, just penalties for lack of care when marshalling although how is that judged? it can't be. The top and bottom of it is, we shouldn't crash (but we do). Andy Fraser is very alert, and his speed is exagerated by the length of his limbs!

As long as we all marshall as we'd like to be marshalled, then it'll be better. There are many who shout and are impatient, sometimes while the car is still rolling! yet as a marshall, puts no effort in and doesn't like to be shouted at for it.

bert digler 26-05-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 127630)
If someone is revving the car when you need to marshall it, then don't touch it..... it could be the worlds championships, don't touch it guys, it'll burn for weeks and probably scar!!

At Oswestry, Chis Bowater crashed just before the loop on the last lap where I was marshalling, I could see his adrenalin was at peak and I was as quick as could be, but he applied full throttle a fraction too soon and a tyre caught my wrist slightly, only very slightly, and im sure Boggy didn't mean it as I know he's not like that, so I said nothing, but it left a slight mark which stung like a small burn.... it just shows how much the spinning tyres can hurt if the tyre is in full contact with skin.

I get very frustrated when I crash, and I used to apply throttle in frustration at myself. I now wiggle my steering instead. Although to get somebodies attention I may give the throttle a blast but get on the brakes once seen.

Chris

i saw a car lobbed in a bush for this hilarious the driver was furious :lol:

CharlieF 26-05-2008 06:37 PM

I am pleased to say I saw some good marshalling at Oswestry in the form of Andy Carter who has just returned to the scene. He clearly has not lost any of his driving skill as his "B" final demonstrates but he happened to be marshalling in front of me during a race I was watching and he was alert and ready to pounce on any car in difficulty every time they came past his spot.
I did think at the time - how good would this sport be if all marshals were like that!


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