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reg 23-10-2011 11:12 AM

SAAB
 
Hi,iv been looking at the 02 SAAB 9-3 20T SE and the 01 SAAB 9-5 20T VECTOR,
they both have much the same spec,but does anyone know what the difference is with the two models,
thanks
Mark

Dyna 23-10-2011 11:47 AM

The main difference is the model.... :lol:

The '02 9-3 you are looking at is a hatchback with the B205 engine, in SE spec 185 hp and running Trionic 7 engine management. Nice car, very thin & high-looking compared to the later 9-3's, but its a hatchback - you can fit virtually anything in it ! Handy when you have two large dogs and dont want a estate... of a couple of MTB's or lots of RC kit ! I presume you are looking at the 3-door and not the 5 door ?

Fuel economy is suprisingly good, parts are relatively cheap, its extremely quick and it dosent have too many inherent problems - the old sludging problem isnt so much of a concern these days as they will have been sorted out by now with a clean out and the latest oil breathing kit.

The '01 9-5 is the larger model, booted with 4 doors - basically larger all round. A family car. I personally dont like it myself - i still prefer the old 9000 for the larger Saab - but if you do have a large family its great. It also runs the B205 engine in 2.0 litre form, basically the same so the same rules apply as for the 9-3's engine. But larger car, slightly slower. And a bit boring tbh :lol:

Ive been a Saab fan for years for 9000's and early 900 Turbos, i had the same choice as you for a buisness car recently so i went for a '01 Saab 9-3 Viggen with the biggest engine they put in it - the B325 with 230 hp.... :woot: Great fun, cheap to run, huuuuge boot, its as quick as anything your likely to meet, and i still get 35mpg if i drive steady :)

Also look at the 9-3 Aero HOT up to '02 - same bodykit as the Viggen but with the 2.0 T engine. Better interiors in my opinion, and also not expensive. And a bit quicker than the SE. Oh, and if possible get a 3-door if you decide on a 9-3, they command better re-sale values than the 4 door. Early 9-5's are now cheap as chips - if it goes wrong, bin it and buy another.... :lol:

If you need more info go on UKSaabs. Bets place for friendly information and advice if you require it.

Robbiejuk 23-10-2011 11:55 AM

Saab 95 is bigger than the 93. Like the diffence between a vectra and a omega. The 93 is hatchback and 95 is a saloon.

reg 23-10-2011 12:11 PM

wow thanks Dyna,just the info i was after,out the two the 02 has the least milage,only 46,000:woot:,only trouble is the cream leather,not to sure about it,both have full Saab service history,the 01 is in budget,but with 103,000 on the clock,

Thanks rob,you understand how my brain works:thumbsup:

jimmyfish 23-10-2011 01:48 PM

Nice car if u want a vauxhall.

reg 23-10-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyfish (Post 571438)
Nice car if u want a vauxhall.


nothing wrong with vauxhall.......but i like the saab better:thumbsup:

daz 23-10-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 571600)
nothing wrong with vauxhall as long as its not a Vectra or a diseasel.......but i like the saab better:thumbsup:

EFA.

wes j. 23-10-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 571394)
Hi,iv been looking at the 02 SAAB 9-3 20T SE and the 01 SAAB 9-5 20T VECTOR,
they both have much the same spec,but does anyone know what the difference is with the two models,
thanks
Mark

We're not in our 60's yet mate :lol:.

budfish 23-10-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 571600)
nothing wrong with vauxhall.......but i like the saab better:thumbsup:

The Saab 9-3 is based on a vectra!!!

reg 23-10-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 571725)
The Saab 9-3 is based on a vectra!!!

i know!!!!!!!!!

reg 23-10-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz (Post 571629)
EFA.


i dont know why you edited my post,

wtf are you on about:yawn:

reg 23-10-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes j. (Post 571657)
We're not in our 60's yet mate :lol:.

dont worry wes,the boot is big enough for all our stuff,and you:woot:

Dave Dodd 23-10-2011 10:04 PM

Does this mean you can drive now reg :lol:

be careful with anything thats got a z19dth engine in it :thumbdown::thumbdown:, unless u make sure it gets serviced regularly and cambelt/waterpump every 50,000 plus injectors serviced every 100,000.

daz 23-10-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 571734)
i dont know why you edited my post,

wtf are you on about:yawn:

You will soon find out if you buy a car based on a Vectra :lol:

reg 24-10-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dodd (Post 571748)
Does this mean you can drive now reg :lol:

be careful with anything thats got a z19dth engine in it :thumbdown::thumbdown:, unless u make sure it gets serviced regularly and cambelt/waterpump every 50,000 plus injectors serviced every 100,000.

i have been driving for 20 years,its only the last 3 years iv not needed a car,i drive at work

thanks Dave,ill make sure i ask:thumbsup:

thanks Daz,very un helpfull as usual

Chris56 30-10-2011 06:43 PM

Bloody hell Mark, how did I miss this thread!

Although both the 9-3 and 9-5 are based on a Vauxhall platform, Saab has done plenty with these to make them very un-Vauxhall-like.

I've just acquired a 2002 9-5 Aero with 1 owner, 60K on clock for an unbelievable steal and it puts a smile on my face every time I jump into it! (250 BHP, 0-60 in 6.5 secs :woot::woot:)

Out of the 9-3s, I definately prefer the 02 model to the later ones - in fastback they look more like proper Saabs.

I do agree that the 2.0t 9-5 model is a bit underpowered for the car's size.

If you can stretch to an Aero spec model I would as they SE spec is fitted with a Garrett turbocharger and the Aero is fitted with a Mitsubishi TD04 turbo (same on both the 9-3 and the 9-5, and the Scooby Impreza!!) - my understanding is that the Mitsubishi turbo is more reliable good for 150K, even though it is a high-pressure unit. There isn't much difference in the car's fuel economy so long as you don't go stupid with my right foot. I managed 40mpg on a return run to Luton airport.

Even though the 9-5 has a higher milage, I wouldn't be put off with high-milage Saabs - they are generally driven by people who look after them and are good for 200k miles.

If you want a blast in mne give me a shout :thumbsup:

Chris56 30-10-2011 06:56 PM

Worth a look if you don't mind travelling:

http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classif...ge/1?logcode=p

If you go for a 9-5, try and get a post 2002 model since these were drastically improved (better handling, sharper front end etc

reg 31-10-2011 07:28 AM

Hi Chris,thanks for the info,iv bought the 95 2.0t vector,after budget,insurance was the next thing,iv got no no claims so the sports model,at this point:woot:is a nono,out of the 93 and 95 i do liked the look of the 95 better,

Chris56 31-10-2011 01:44 PM

Was it the one from Vee-Dub cars? if so it looks a nice motor! They aren't the cheapest cars to insure: my Aero is costing me £800 per year, and thats with 12 years NCB!

reg 01-11-2011 04:56 AM

no its from a garage,12 months MOT,full saab service history and a month or 1000 miles warranty,i pay £700 with no NCB,and a claim in the last 5 years:(

Chris56 14-11-2011 09:39 PM

Now that there are a few Saab fans on this forum, I thought I would set the ball rolling with a picture of my 9-5 Aero. Car is totally standard but may be temped with a remap in the future:woot:.

Dyna - have you got a picture of the Viggen? definately a modern classic!

http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...R/IMG_0905.jpg
http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/...R/IMG_1150.jpg

Dyna 21-11-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 581980)
Now that there are a few Saab fans on this forum, I thought I would set the ball rolling with a picture of my 9-5 Aero. Car is totally standard but may be temped with a remap in the future:woot:.

Dyna - have you got a picture of the Viggen? definately a modern classic!


Do you know i cant find many pictures of any of my cars, let alone all the Saabs ive owned or own.... :cry:

Im sure ive got some somewhere of the Viggen though, taken when it was looking nice and shiney this summer - ill see if i can find them.

In the meantime here's one of my early flat-nose C900 Turbo's... had 3 of these, sold this pictured one not long ago, scrapped another for parts but Ive kept the best one, which is one of the earliest flat-nose surviors... best 80's tradition, burghandy leather interior & dash, the works :)

Great car, i prefer the C900 Turbo's over the more modern 9-3 Viggen tbh.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture164.jpg

Pops 21-11-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyna (Post 584714)
Do you know i cant find many pictures of any of my cars, let alone all the Saabs ive owned or own.... :cry:

Im sure ive got some somewhere of the Viggen though, taken when it was looking nice and shiney this summer - ill see if i can find them.

In the meantime here's one of my early flat-nose C900 Turbo's... had 3 of these, sold this pictured one not long ago, scrapped another for parts but Ive kept the best one, which is one of the earliest flat-nose surviors... best 80's tradition, burghandy leather interior & dash, the works :)

Great car, i prefer the C900 Turbo's over the more modern 9-3 Viggen tbh.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture164.jpg

Did i mention i had 3 of these mat?? Still the best looking Saab IMO:thumbsup:

Chris56 21-11-2011 04:47 PM

Nice wheels mate - definately with Pops on best looking Saab, especially in black

mark christopher 21-11-2011 07:46 PM

did my apprentiship on saabs of that era and the 99's

captainlip 22-11-2011 10:10 AM

cant beat a Saab

http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars...5850_55155.jpg

Chris56 22-11-2011 08:16 PM

Looks like somebody has taken a 9-5 body and dropped it from a height onto a Le Man car :thumbdown::thumbdown:- and how the hell does he put petrol in it?:lol::lol:

Dyna 23-11-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 585590)
Looks like somebody has taken a 9-5 body and dropped it from a height onto a Le Man car :thumbdown::thumbdown:- and how the hell does he put petrol in it?:lol::lol:

Custom internal alloy race tank, external fuel filler cap is now redundant...

There was a thread on this car on UKSaabs at some point.... ive got a youtube link below, lots of power although it sounds like a bloody tractor tbh :woot:

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/258...-2000-pictures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7M8m...eature=related

JBL 23-11-2011 09:44 PM

One of my friends had a Abbott Racing 9000 Saab and talk about quick for 1993 vehicle. It had as much power as a Escort RS Cosworth, but only front wheel drive:thumbsup:.

gavjones998 23-11-2011 10:40 PM

Saab aero
 
I brought my first Saab this year I must admit I am very impressed . Its Saab Aero HOT estate. Wow its quick . Ive fallen in love with it because built quality and it's spec. I stopped using it because it does 16mpg - 28mpg when i drove it very sensibly I got 30-35mpg .

I'm thinking of buying 3.0 V6 TD . hopefully it should be less thirsty .

:)

Chris56 24-11-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavjones998 (Post 586122)
I'm thinking of buying 3.0 V6 TD . hopefully it should be less thirsty .

:)

Powerful engine that but be careful - if it is the Isuzu engine they are very prone to faults (hence why they are so rare.

If you can stretch to a 1.9 TTID (180 Bhp) they are much more reliable, plus better n the tax/insurance. Otherwise I would stick with the Aero and take the hit on the fuel -the repair bills will be much more expensive.

Dyna 24-11-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavjones998 (Post 586122)
I'm thinking of buying 3.0 V6 TD . hopefully it should be less thirsty .

:)

Plus the 3.0 V6 isnt as fuel efficient as you might think... late 30's if your lucky in everyday driving - not that much more than a petrol if your reasonably careful with the right foot.

If the petrols going well and is in good nick, keep it :)


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