Do these look any good for competetive racing?

[b4rs]

its the new tamiya duranga, and basiclaly its quite cheap, but not too much cmpared to the B4. so i was wondering if it is anygood in any of your eyes. may buy it as a spare for racing.

[janus_77]

If you use a B4, might be easier to search for a decent B4 runner as a spare car. That way you can change parts when needed.

[DCM]

if you are going to race it, then you are going to need at least the front CVD's and slipper, I know I got a quote from a certain asian champion store and the price is silly cheap.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by b4rs

its the new tamiya duranga,

It's the Durga http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5482

[jimmy]

I think I might review this one and do a shoot-out between it and the 501X for a laugh, mr.Rotheram is up for some racing with it so we'll see how raceable it is.
The shocks - unless they are somehow changed from other cars, are a bit toss - but some B4 shocks would fit and work like the 501X shocks

[DCM]

if they are the plastic shocks, then as a stop gap, get some of the 501X pistons to take up some of the slop till you can get propper shocks.

[jimmy]

Afaik the plastic shocks have different diameters front and rear? so 501X pistons won't work.

Saying that - the 'hop up' shocks that Tamiya make for the DT02 / DF03 etc have the same diameter pistons as the 501X but the 501X pistons are about 50% thicker so won't work....
In other words there are probably multiple ways that the 501X pistons won't fit ! And pistons are the main problem with these plastic shocks - the provided ones are simply crap.

[PaulRotheram]

shall be giving this a whirl for a few meetings for a review if we can get things arranged.

[RogerM]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Afaik the plastic shocks have different diameters front and rear? so 501X pistons won't work.

Saying that - the 'hop up' shocks that Tamiya make for the DT02 / DF03 etc have the same diameter pistons as the 501X but the 501X pistons are about 50% thicker so won't work....
In other words there are probably multiple ways that the 501X pistons won't fit ! And pistons are the main problem with these plastic shocks - the provided ones are simply crap.

Wouldn't be too much trouble to turn up a few pistons from some PTFE bar ..... let me know the dimensions and I'll see what I can do!

[DCM]

if I remember rightly, I used the onroad TRF pistons on the DF03 metal shocks as the stock pistons that it came with were to big and just were pants...

[jimmy]

I put 501X shafts in the DF03 metal shocks - so I could use 501X pistons. Shame Tamiya can't sometimes reuse parts between their shocks.

[super__dan]

My two peneth if slightly off topic.

I dont understand when people buy cars like this or particulalry say the Dark Force, to spend a fortune on Hop Ups to get a car that is still far less competetive than a basic race kit.

For me (and some people will realise how difficult this is for me to say) I'd even rather buy a Lazer ZX5 as at least spares are avaialble trackside. Or for a little more a bog stock xx4 would be MILES more competetive as an off road racer.

It's not like I don't like modding, just with the tamiya kits you end up with something that's still a fancy basher, is that fair?

Just to point out, if someone is buying it to run as is, thats a different thing, it's the massive modding for as I see little gain I don't get.

[jimmy]

Dan, it may surprise you to know this - but people racing cars account for a small portion of electric buggy sales. I'd guess most people buy them for fun. Granted it would be a massive majority in the past compared to now where many people buy 'fun' vehicles like trucks or monster or micro things.

That said, not everyone is out for the same thing.

I'll finish with the comparison that the Durga can be bought for less than you probably paid for a one-way for your old XXX4...

[Doomanic]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I'll finish with the comparison that the Durga can be bought for less than you probably paid for a one-way for your old XXX4...

It's cheap, but not that cheap (unless you know of somewhere selling them for under £60 )

I kind of agree with Dan on this, but I'm still considering one for Callum as long as they are built like a tank.

[purpletimbo]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=014
Don't know if there's any cheaper out there?

[Doomanic]

I've seen that one, he doesn't actually have the kits and he wants £29 for shipping!

[DCM]

if you were racing 4WD competitively, then this isn't for you, but for some, they race occaisionaly, so it is ideal. After running the 'budget tamiya tourer for over two years, and only broken one part, I know the Durga will be solid and take a lot of abuse, plus many parts will carry over to. As for price, jumping the que with a certain company, and on pre-order, I can get the car, full set of CVD's and the slipper unit for quite a bit less than £100, and shipping wont be excessive either.

you got to ask yourself 'why' you are buying it, and i guess i am buying it cause there wont be many people racing it, so making it work is far more satisfying than going on X-forum and asking the team how to make it do this or that.

[jimmy]

Well the fun of getting mr.rotheram to race the car back to back with the 501X is to get an idea of just how competitive it is. without pre-bashing it.

I love you really Dan. but don't forget, your X6 is an upgrade / conversion for the B4. Bit like putting shocks and a slipper on this Tamiya then really eh!

[super__dan]

I don't know if my post came across right, I was genuinley asking to understand. I guess I'm more race focussed and that is much more important to me. I don't see the X6 as the same thing as without to get into that discussion.

It is actually much cheaper than I thought but to get it any where near race pace even at club level (inc postage at the moment) would make it much more expensive.

Incidentally I seem to recall the one way for my XXX4 was forty something quid way back when from Apex

[losidan]

i cant say nowt about the cars spec but the shell is badass