thinking about building a track in yorkshire

[Jim Birkitt]

right guys im just starin racin soon and at my house ive had pit bike tracks for me n my mates to play about on for years so was tslkin to the old man about startin racin and hes mentioned mayb setting a track up here between selby n pontefract!!!!!!!!!what do we need to run it?im thinking a portacabin for laptimin and up top for podium maybe??we got water electric but how big will the car park need to be?will we need a building for the pits??any special plannig?insurance?

any advice will be helpfull thanks

[dave-p]

i see you are near wakefield, there is a new venue just opened near you .

[Jim Birkitt]

yeh im goin to have a look soon but thought if we could get another track going then its abit of variety rather than same track every week

[Simon_b]

Sounds like a great plan, however.

There have been many before you with this idea.

You will need a very big field a jcb, a roller, 1000's/m of ducting pipe and some racers that have many years of experience to help you designa track that is gonna be suitable.

timing gear, which can be upto £6000.00

and then the main issue, no neighbours for miles around. A local model shop opened one not to long ago, they spent a lot of money developing the site only to have it shut down due to 1 complaint and unfortunately it only takes the 1.

I would welcome a new track in Yorkshire however unless it is indoor i would have to keep my loyalties with MMRX although i would be more than happy to attend everynow and then.

Do you have some land in mind or are you just gauging interest. I would consider approaching a farmer who has an unused barn (most have these days as they contract out their work.) that you could hire and build an indoor dirt track that is fully lit and available to use all year round. If you were to do that i'm sure you would soon gain a lot of new friends.

Best of look with whatever you decide to do, and i look forward to seeing you down at MMRX should the rain ever stop.

[Jim Birkitt]

Originally Posted by Simon_b

Sounds like a great plan, however.

There have been many before you with this idea.

You will need a very big field a jcb, a roller, 1000's/m of ducting pipe and some racers that have many years of experience to help you designa track that is gonna be suitable.

timing gear, which can be upto £6000.00

and then the main issue, no neighbours for miles around. A local model shop opened one not to long ago, they spent a lot of money developing the site only to have it shut down due to 1 complaint and unfortunately it only takes the 1.

I would welcome a new track in Yorkshire however unless it is indoor i would have to keep my loyalties with MMRX although i would be more than happy to attend everynow and then.

Do you have some land in mind or are you just gauging interest. I would consider approaching a farmer who has an unused barn (most have these days as they contract out their work.) that you could hire and build an indoor dirt track that is fully lit and available to use all year round. If you were to do that i'm sure you would soon gain a lot of new friends.

Best of look with whatever you decide to do, and i look forward to seeing you down at MMRX should the rain ever stop.

i have 10acres at my home and a concrete barn and the next neighbour is quite abit away as i live in middle of nowhere just need to know the basics to get set up and see how it goes have acces to big 360 and mini diggers rollers forklifts

[johnnygibbon]

if you got a barn you could be king of rc., i no round here in the rossendale/bury area
there has been a lot of searching for such an indoor venue and it has not been easy to find one yet
an indoor dirt/astro tack in a barn that that could be used all yearr by 10ths 8ths and 5ths electric or fuel . would be a very very popular venue. inthink you should go for it . big time
on the timing system they are exepnsive but there are 2nd hand ones and also some cheaper infra red systems that run cheaper ,maybe a local club could lend you a system on certain days to get you going.
but yeah dude go for it i will travel up for a few laps
bet quite a few others would to

[Jim Birkitt]

cheers dude indoor and outdorr would be preety sweet..just got to finish conceteing rest of the barn and may build a winter facility bring the dirt indoors lol

[Simon_b]

now thats a different ball game altogether. If you build an indoor track then i'm sure it would be a massive success.

[andys]

Sounds promising.
Where abouts are you in Yorkshire ?
Are you doing it to run a club as a business, ie make some cash, or just for fun !

[racingdwarf]

Well if you have a building that you own, no landlords or farmers to boot you out just when you get going. you have just about what every person who runs a club dreams of!!!

If you have a dirt floor...fantastic! all you need is a 1.5T diggerand someone who is quite sharp on it,a rotovator if the ground conditions allow and a good roller, and about 400m of pipe, give that a bit of thought as if you want to run Rallyx and 10th three inch is better,as four inch is great for 8th but the tenth boys will loose there cars. You may well know what you are doing and have been racing for years. but if not listen to advice and have a good look at all the photos of tracks on here etc

But I find there are a few rules to a great track a) car friendly so every one has a good day. b) not to many jumps, bomb holes, tabletops etc its so easy to over do it c) Make it flow if poss with some fast bits and some slow not just straight corner straight corner, d) Errrm don't just listen to fast drivers who want national standard tracks all the time, As these tracks tend not to favor the club driver in some cases (just my opinion) e) If you have a only a few people to start off with remember the masheling when building the track, as you may need 10 marshells and only have 5 people, this ends up with people sitting on there lid for to long

A timeing system would be great and these days just about run a club meeting on there own, BUT there are other ways if you have a pc/laptop

Drivers stand of some form, build it how ever you like just so long as it hold enough peope without falling down

Insurance Join your club to the BRCA (simples)

People can pit outside, as they are used to this and are set up to do so, if you are short on space don't lose track space for pitting. If you are running nitros you prob would'n't want to pit inext to the track with all the noise and fumes! but if you have enough room great

As far as planning goes, we have normaly got away with the market traiders law by only being there 28days a year ( this is how car boots work I am told) but if not you may have to go for change of use, if your outdoors and you think you may have probs with locals never cement posts into the ground to make drivers stand etc as they can class this as perminent foundations amd say you need planning permission

But all this said, if you have a bag of money and want to build the very best in the uk GO FOR IT

Enough of my woffle

[Jim Birkitt]

Originally Posted by racingdwarf

Well if you have a building that you own, no landlords or farmers to boot you out just when you get going. you have just about what every person who runs a club dreams of!!!

If you have a dirt floor...fantastic! all you need is a 1.5T diggerand someone who is quite sharp on it,a rotovator if the ground conditions allow and a good roller, and about 400m of pipe, give that a bit of thought as if you want to run Rallyx and 10th three inch is better,as four inch is great for 8th but the tenth boys will loose there cars. You may well know what you are doing and have been racing for years. but if not listen to advice and have a good look at all the photos of tracks on here etc

But I find there are a few rules to a great track a) car friendly so every one has a good day. b) not to many jumps, bomb holes, tabletops etc its so easy to over do it c) Make it flow if poss with some fast bits and some slow not just straight corner straight corner, d) Errrm don't just listen to fast drivers who want national standard tracks all the time, As these tracks tend not to favor the club driver in some cases (just my opinion) e) If you have a only a few people to start off with remember the masheling when building the track, as you may need 10 marshells and only have 5 people, this ends up with people sitting on there lid for to long

A timeing system would be great and these days just about run a club meeting on there own, BUT there are other ways if you have a pc/laptop

Drivers stand of some form, build it how ever you like just so long as it hold enough peope without falling down

Insurance Join your club to the BRCA (simples)

People can pit outside, as they are used to this and are set up to do so, if you are short on space don't lose track space for pitting. If you are running nitros you prob would'n't want to pit inext to the track with all the noise and fumes! but if you have enough room great

As far as planning goes, we have normaly got away with the market traiders law by only being there 28days a year ( this is how car boots work I am told) but if not you may have to go for change of use, if your outdoors and you think you may have probs with locals never cement posts into the ground to make drivers stand etc as they can class this as perminent foundations amd say you need planning permission

But all this said, if you have a bag of money and want to build the very best in the uk GO FOR IT

Enough of my woffle

much appreciated i thought it would needa concrete floor we have a strip in at the minute would do for drivers stand if i take some pictures put them on here advice would be good an some measurements i can get a mini digger not a problem and im preety nifty with them can also get bobcats have a tractor and trailer at home to move the soil...and a few piles of sand to put in a few sandpit sections if theyed be any good??

[racingdwarf]

Yer post some photos

Big NO on the sand pit sections, sand and RC cars don't realy mix.

Look up the neobuggy meeting photos that jimmy has on here and also the PDA club in the club section, they have no indoor track at the min, but the photos of there old one will give you some good ideas

[chalky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELYyHsIdGY


this is what you need and you`ll be minted