Fuel

[racingdwarf]

Just thinking of the tracks I could travel to this winter, Edenpark,stotfold.....and then have you seen the price of deisel at the min!!!! It would be cheeper to build an astro track in my garden!

[LEGEND]

What you do is go down to Tesco and buy a couple of those big bottles of vegetable oil and fill about half your tank and just fill the rest with deisel. My dad does this on long trips as it save on buying petrol.

[tc2k]

Vegetable Oil, wtf.
Our dads just changed to that LPG in our big car. Costs a fair whack to get it changed but at 45pence a litre, if you use your car alot it will pay off eventually and then its savings lol.

[rcracer]

Originally Posted by LEGEND

What you do is go down to Tesco and buy a couple of those big bottles of vegetable oil and fill about half your tank and just fill the rest with deisel. My dad does this on long trips as it save on buying petrol.

Does he drive a chip van ?

[ashleyb4]

What you need is a caravan and to follow a lorry we followed a car transporter for a short while on the way back from holiday and we got something stupid miles to the gallon it was mad as it was towing us along. Cant rememeber what it was but it was funny getting better fuel consumpion pulling the caravan than when we dont pull it lol but it got a bit tedious doing 55 mph so we overtook him it soon shot down again.

A

[bigred5765]

U MEAN U LOT DONT KNOW THAT A DIESEL CAR WILL RUN ON SUNFLOUR OIL JUST AS GOOD AS DIESEL , DONT YOU GUYS WATCH MYTHBUSTERS

[ashleyb4]

I knew it thats my mcdonalds started to use someof there old oil to run there vans. It was cleaned first of course.

A

[MattADH]

Although the fuel price has gone up recently, I think it will only add a few quid to the price of filling up.
When I used to get the money off vouchers from supermarkets, I was really surprised by how little it reduced my bill at the pumps when I filled up and that was from virtually empty.

My car normally takes around £62 worth of diesel and that is brimming it. I do around 33k miles a year so I am also very aware of the cost of fuel. Sign up to the petrolprices website and they will e-mail with the cheapest petrol stations in your area.

[DCM]

If you do, don't brag, cause once you use vegetable oil, you are suppose to declare it as a fuel, lol. You could always getting a drum of oil from your local chippy (they have to pay to dispose of it), you have to seive the oil, and I think you add a drop of white spirits to thin it a little and you are done.... although your exhaust will smell of chips... or you could get oil from an indian restaurant and have it smell of curry.... mmmmm

I am on LPG, and at 41p a litre.... well, tis great.

[telboy]

Id go LPG, but theres only one garage I know of that does it, and thats about 15-20 mile away .

If more garages did it as an option, I think more people would use it.

But then the govornment wouldnt get as much in taxes, so they probably discourage garages from stocking it.

[DCM]

it is H+S that stops garages, try Shell, they are the cheapest place as a forecourt that sells it, plus most places that refill gas bottles do it too, just ask a taxi driver where he gets his from lol.

[racingdwarf]

I'm not to sure what the chip oil thing would do to my warranty,As the fitter at Nissan removes the fuel filter I would hear WTF!!!!

[bigred5765]

lol
it does work, i haven't tried it but watched mythbusters run a merc on it, it was filtered first but gave the same mpg as diesel, they added nothing at all, just pure used vegetable oil. but I'm sure i heard they add the smallest amount of something in the UK, yes your supposed to declare it so you can be charged vat but who in there right mind would,

[trekkerkk]

hi racingdwarf.
does this mean we are going to see you down at the winter warmer meeting at eden park sunday,
trekkker

[Hog]

If it's new oil then you are supposed to declare it if you do more than 40 litres a week. If it's reclaimed oil then there is no need because the tax will have been paid on the orginal purchase for its intended use.

I believe you are supposed to thin it a little with paraffin. Also in cold weather you will need to use a pre-heater to thin it up as it will be too thick. Of course there is no need for that if you are using a mix with diesel.

[VintageRacer]

Originally Posted by Hog

If it's new oil then you are supposed to declare it if you do more than 40 litres a week. If it's reclaimed oil then there is no need because the tax will have been paid on the orginal purchase for its intended use.

I am sure there is still some duty to be paid on it if it is used as fuel. Not sure how they would know though.

Wonder if the price of vegtable oil will start to rise as people do this more and more. It could make fish and chips a bit expensive!!

[craigosh]

Goverment has recently said that you can produce upto 2,500 litres of bio diesel tax free. Think i worked it out and for me (if i had a diesel car lol) it'd be enough fuel for the year

i've been looking at these things http://www.etruk.com/

Gonna have a serious look next year at changing the car for nice diesel one and getting one of these bad boys. We got a chippy at the end of out road

think i'd still run a mix of bio and normal diesel. heard from some people about cars catching fire on just biodiesel

[Col]

If your car is on a 51 plate or newer, think long and hard about this: modern diesels produce so much power and eficiency because the engines run at incredibly fine tollerances. I know of an AA man who has recovered several modern diesel cars with fuel pumps knackered due to running on bio fuel.
Obviously this is a top end quote, but when I worked at BMW, a repair bill of £7000 was around average for a replacement fuel system...

[Jonny69]

Be very careful doing this as modern injection systems sometimes struggle as the lubrication properties of the oil are different to diesel. My understanding is that doing it yourself is no good. You need to buy the proper stuff that has been refined correctly. Someone my dad knows had a go at this and 3 of his businesses fairly new BWM's were knackered by it. You can not just sieve it as many people seen to think. There is a lot of hassle involved in doing it properly (Which is my opinion is the only way) and it is expensive to tool up to do it correctly.

Most manufacturers allow a 5% blend of bio-diesel. The warranty is still valid if you do this. You can buy this or add your own blend.

Jonathan

[racingdwarf]

Originally Posted by trekkerkk

hi racingdwarf.
does this mean we are going to see you down at the winter warmer meeting at eden park sunday,
trekkker

I'm thinking about it,if not this time it will be soon.Been a long long time!!
can't wait. Last time I was at EPO mr ADH was driving a yellow 2CV that I think ran on potato peelings.