Lazer ZX-S

[Tjompa]

Hi everyone!
Did find this rare piece of art recently.
Seems to be very rare and i am wondering how much this car is worth nowadays?
Happy for answer.
Kind regards
Tomas

[Balders]

I know of certain Welsh boy that will positively wet himself when he see's this!



Fair play that is awesome, where did you find that?

Mike

[Dyna]

We are all waiting for Welshy to come along....

Then again, there are a couple of other people on here who have them or owned them in the past who might be able to help you.

Nice find though, a few years ago you might've got maybe 4-500 quid for that on Ebay. Now, ive heard they can go 2-3 times that NIB for both 1 and 2 ZXS versions. Realistically as ever its however someone is actually prepared to pay for it on the day. I'd love one, but they are well out of my pocket these days.

Welshy will be able to help you

[Tjompa]

Hi!
Thanks for your answers!
Did find it at a rc collector in the middle of Sweden.
I have heard rumors also on this guy named Welshy, but will he really wet himself?

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by Tjompa

Hi!
Thanks for your answers!
Did find it at a rc collector in the middle of Sweden.
I have heard rumors also on this guy named Welshy, but will he really wet himself?

Im English and racing one of these. Actually the prototypes go for two to three times the value and youll find that these are getting cheaper every day due to whats going on. Pm me.

[kek23k]

That's awesome, wish I had some spare cash for that lol. Welshy, how much are these worth currently and what are the key differences between this and your running prototype (pics of which I have drooled over many times lol)?

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by kek23k

That's awesome, wish I had some spare cash for that lol. Welshy, how much are these worth currently and what are the key differences between this and your running prototype (pics of which I have drooled over many times lol)?

Chassis is different, basically a three piece chassis with two servo holes to attach the servo instaed of one hole and a tie wrap and glue to hold it in - very much like the YZ10.

(The three piece chassis ended up in the Mk2 version - ZX-S Evolution and only 200 were made of that model)

Mine also has protos front castor blocks front and rear, proto ujs, all blue alloy instead of silver (prototypes only) and a slightly different lightened hyper clutch which is also blue. Also proto type diffs with smaller and more balls making it super smoothe. ZX and ZXR hexes with pins to hold them on instead of the yokomo wheel adaptor and prototype kyosho shocks. also the Ujs are longer than the ZXR and ZX-S. Ok these items with a few little mods except the proto Ujs all ended up on the ZX-S Evo and was a better car due to the little changes. The ZXS had the better balance on the chassis but the overall car was not as good as the Evo. Oh yes mine also has a carbon fibre kick up plate instead of the alloy one, which I cut from a chassis that was beyond repair. One of the 300 ZXS chassis I may add.

Also worth mentioning the shocks, castor block and rear hubs are now being used on the ZX-5 and rear hubs on the 2wd buggy and are almost identical to the original protos. I think thats it.

Cost, thats a good one. My mates rekon a couple of grand for my new unused proto (I havent needed to break it for spares) and possibly the same again for the one I am using, if not more due to the amount of spares I have but that wont be sold as I enjoy using it.

The ZX-S you can pick up from £80 for a worn out one (and lets face it you wont have much luck in rebuilding it as there are no spares anywhere in the world) and a never used one from £200 onwards, depending on how much you want to spend. Personally I wouldnt go beyond £250 as you cant race it, as the rear end would break on a roll, hence why I have modded the rear on mine in alloy (Manolis is the master with Alloy!!!!!)

[pUs]

I don't know if you noticed Welshy, but that's the ZX-S with the one-piece carbon chassis and Losi shocks. Without exaggerating, I'd say £200 is quite way off it's actual worth.

[Tjompa]

If this kit so rare why isn´t it worth more? Take a look att Tamiya cars, like an Egress or Top Force evo, the cheapest EVO NIB is around 900USD on ebay, and Egress is approx 1500USD or more, they are more egresses NIB than a Lazer ZX-S NIB, cant really believe this.

[peetbee]

There's more people collecting Tamiya's than there are people collecting Kyosho. For some reason Kyosho have always lagged behind in collectability and therefore value.

[Dyna]

Hmmm i think what Welshy is trying to get at is its not a popular or even well known car at all, unlike the fanboy Egress's and Top Force Evo's - I suppose you could get old used ZX-S's relatively cheap ( if you can find one ) but spares are virtually non-existent. Very little is duplicated on the ZXR or ZXRR. So running one is pretty much out of the question.

As far as the chassis goes, its running a seperate front kicker ( unlike the ZXR range ) which do bend/break. Plus the rear end is not that strong either.

So again, its whatever someone is prepared to pay for a relatively unknown kit. Some might not pay more than 250 quid, some might pay a thousand quid.

[Tjompa]

In the eye of the beholder...
Well, i keep this for some time

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by pUs

I don't know if you noticed Welshy, but that's the ZX-S with the one-piece carbon chassis and Losi shocks. Without exaggerating, I'd say £200 is quite way off it's actual worth.

Well i got one for 90 so i do know the going rate. If u read what i said i cut the one piece kick up off the chassis as it had seen better days yet the kick up was ok. Ive been racing this for quite some time and know a lot about both models. Not all came with losi shocks as some were given the option on certain items before they made the kit hence why some came with the gold shocks, mind u most were losi silver or black shocks. Mind u the evo also had options before buying

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by Tjompa

If this kit so rare why isn´t it worth more? Take a look att Tamiya cars, like an Egress or Top Force evo, the cheapest EVO NIB is around 900USD on ebay, and Egress is approx 1500USD or more, they are more egresses NIB than a Lazer ZX-S NIB, cant really believe this.

It because the design is a bit special. Cf gearbox on the rear and afew changes here and there.

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by Tjompa
If this kit so rare why isn´t it worth more? Take a look att Tamiya cars, like an Egress or Top Force evo, the cheapest EVO NIB is around 900USD on ebay, and Egress is approx 1500USD or more, they are more egresses NIB than a Lazer ZX-S NIB, cant really believe this.

It because the design is a bit special. Cf gearbox on the rear and a few changes here and there make this a bit special, it looks great and yes has made two worlds A finals on dust / clay but lets be honest here is rubbish on any other surface unless you do a lot of development work on it . Ive redesigned a new chassis layout, different width, and slight alterations here and there to try to give grip to the rear and take some away from the front. I enjoy hard work and this makes setting up a brick look easy [quote]

[pUs]

Originally Posted by Welshy40

Well i got one for 90 so i do know the going rate. If u read what i said i cut the one piece kick up off the chassis as it had seen better days yet the kick up was ok. Ive been racing this for quite some time and know a lot about both models. Not all came with losi shocks as some were given the option on certain items before they made the kit hence why some came with the gold shocks, mind u most were losi silver or black shocks. Mind u the evo also had options before buying

Welshy, without being rude, you're not the only one around who "knows a lot" about the Lazer family. If you got a ZX-S for £90, then congratulations to you, that's all I can say.

No matter how you put it though, the ZX-S is a rare piece of RC-history and to some people, this car holds a high value simply because it's so hard to find, especially NIB. Sure, it's not probable that you'll get 2000$ for a ZXS Evo NIB (as somebody tried on Ebay recently with limited success) but still there's no need for exaggerating.. given the right buyer, the car is worth a lot, period. I know, because I would pay a lot.

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by pUs

Welshy, without being rude, you're not the only one around who "knows a lot" about the Lazer family. If you got a ZX-S for £90, then congratulations to you, that's all I can say.

No matter how you put it though, the ZX-S is a rare piece of RC-history and to some people, this car holds a high value simply because it's so hard to find, especially NIB. Sure, it's not probable that you'll get 2000$ for a ZXS Evo NIB (as somebody tried on Ebay recently with limited success) but still there's no need for exaggerating.. given the right buyer, the car is worth a lot, period. I know, because I would pay a lot.

I know I am not the only one who knows a lot but I do know a lot about this car as I am still racing it, in fact how many others are? Thats gotta show quality straight away. Heck if your around my neck of the woods or me being around yours I have no problems letting you have a go, as every ones opinion helps especially relating to set up.

I agree and did say that its down to the individual what they want to pay, I got one for the going rate and was a bit disappointed with the chassis more than anything, yes its a one piece but you have to glue the servo to it which is not a good idea, hence why the evo is better.

I prefer Kyosho due to being a better product from Tamiya (up until now that is). £200 up to £400 but as you said if you had the opportunity and cash then why not go higher if your passionate about it.

Still makes me wonder how much someone would actually pay for my new built ZX-S prototype, as all its doing is taking up space in a box in my cupboard.

Also would be interested if anyone out there who has a ZX-S with a sticker sheet could take a picture of the sticker sheet and post it, so I can get it made for the buggy in the box, I used all of my stickers years back. Thanks.

[Tjompa]

I have spoken to my friend who owns a hobbyshop today and he can supply almost every part for the ZX-S, the body and rear uprights is out of stock though.
So if i decide to build it and race it i dont need to worry about parts.
Sounds really great.

[Dyna]

Seriously ? He can get all parts for the ZX-S ?? If so then post the name of the shop and contact details !!

But are you sure he dosent mean the Lazer ZXS ( Sport ) ? You can still get nearly all the ZX/ZXR/ZXSport parts so it may be those he can get hold of ? The Sport was a watered-down ZXR and Ive got a NIB one up in the loft, very basic buggies though.

If they ARE genuine ZX-S parts you can get, let us know !

[Tjompa]

In that shop you could only search on partnumber (bags) and i asked him on lets say 15 different items from my ZX-S manual and they got a hit every time.