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26-02-2014
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Cars for future collection
This point may have been raised in the forum before but it was something that interested me.
Why and who had that NIB Turbo Optima or that NIP hub from a Schui Cat? It fascinates me how a model could have sat, unsold in that little model shop in North Carolina and how it came on to the market in 2014. Did the grandson finally have a clearout of his grandads overstock when he sadly shut down his model store? Or did a very forward thinking individual say in 1990, Ooo, that Masami replica will be worth a fortune in 20yrs! Is anyone here starting to buy models they believe to be future classics and what models are they? Do people these days have money to spend on something that may never be used? The person that came to mind is Marwan with his breath-taking collection of boxed models in his Youtube video. If you could go back in time and buy 10 models to keep in a box what would they be? Nick
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26-02-2014
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This issue has been brought up in other forums...
I wonder if the cars will hold their value in years to come. Subsequent generations may not be able to appreciate these models. For us we can clearly relate as they spanned our childhood. Therefore I think it's likely such cars will mainly hold sentimental value.
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26-02-2014
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I have a fairly modern collection, mainly Losi stuff. When was the last time anyone saw a mint BK2? I have two of these, brand new, I know they are probably worth £100 at best at the moment, but maybe in 10 years time? I am currently building an original B4 factory team from new parts off ebay etc. again, when was the last time anyone saw one of those mint? I have 2 XXX's, one a Kinwald with all the Trinity goodies on it, I really do think this will be worth a bob or two in a few years, T3 FT mint/new, and a XXX-T Matt Francis. I have also on my shelf an original RB5 first edition and a TRF201. What constitutes a classic? how old do they have to be? I love collecting these modern classics that will hopefully be worth more than I paid for them one day....
Cheers, Mark.
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26-02-2014
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I remember a local model shop back in the 90's that had a Schumacher Procat on the shelf for years, even when the Cat 2000 had come out. The problem was that they wanted more than £150 for it back then even though you could buy them else where when they were the latest model for £150. I guess that is one way these kits stay NIP. Eventually I'm guessing they sold it.
I have of late seen some end of line buggy's going for a good discounted price. I'm not so sure that these cars will hold their value. There are certainly better ways of investing money for a profit. But then I still think they are a good deal if you want a preserved kit or New built shelf queen.
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26-02-2014
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I agree wit what naushad said- the things we want are from our younger years. At our age, our children will be looking for what they had. Likely a T-Maxx or the likes. They aren't interested in a hirobo zerda as they never had them, similar to how a lot of us don't look for an Associated RC1 or Dynamic car. It's more about the memories. For that reason, I think the current in-demand cars will peak with us, and die out with us
These are the ones I would love for my collection: Hirobo Jealousy MRP Pro-410 Shogun A-Main Bullet Traxxas Wildcat Cox Gasser Euro Trasher Kyosho Fantom electric Kyosho Yamaha Moto Cross Rider 10 Kyosho Hanomag (always wanted one, never seen one!) Dynamic suspension car M.A.N.E Eclipse
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26-02-2014
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Heres mine, most of you will know why.
Lazer ZX Lazer ZXR Mk1 Lazer ZXR Mk2 Lazer ZXRR Lazer ZX-S Lazer ZX-S Evo Kyosho Pro-X Traxxas TRX1 Traxxas TRX3 Yokomo YZ10
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26-02-2014
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Naushad is right. That does make me wonder, though...will kids today consider the Traxxas Slash as a "vintage" collectible 20 years from now? Yuk!
On the other hand, you could make an argument for r/c being an "inherited" taste, for lack of a better term. Young boys (some girls too, but let's be honest: cars are mostly a boy thing) learn a love of cars usually from their fathers. As part of that, they come to appreciate cars from their father's generation. Maybe not as much as their fathers do, but it is there and it can help to preserve the value of those older cars beyond them being rare. "Oh my dad had a '64 Chevelle and so I want one to remind me of him." This can extend to r/c for the fraction of hobbyists who have children that they indoctrinate into the hobby. If/when I have kids, they will learn to appreciate Daddy's YZ10 collection and how they are an homage to the greatest r/c racer ever (Masami). Personally, I do not treat my r/c acquisitions as an investment, for the most part at least. Although, I do pick up rare examples that meet my tastes in part because of the rarity, but I do not personally equate that with monetary value. For example, I have a NIB '94 YZ10 that cost me a pretty penny, and I will never assemble it or sell it to anyone. Ever. Forever ever. But that's only because I want to preserve the rarity (or cool factor or whatever you want to call it) of a NIB '94 YZ10, regardless of what the street price is or will be in the future. There is a point where collecting turns into hoarding, though. Gamespot.com actually had an excellent piece on the psychology of hoarding a few months ago. A very interesting video if you can find it and watch it... Going back to the original questions, though, there will always be people who can afford to buy stuff and not use them. If I had real money as a kid, I would probably have spent it on the following, in no particular order: Tamiya Porsche 959 Tamiya Avante/Egress RC10 World's Car Yokomo YZ10 (any and all of them) Tamiya Blackfoot with Thorp drivetrain conversion Tamiya Astute/Super Astute/Dyna Storm Tamiya Solar Eagle HPI Super F1 ...plus a few others I'm sure... Not surprisingly, I have most of these now...
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26-02-2014
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bought an ultima rb type r a few years ago to replace the b3 i was running, dont see many of them around. still in the box, built but never run. was about to but was offered a b4 at a good price so in its box it stayed, wonder what that will be worth in another ten years
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26-02-2014
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My NIB optima, turbo optima mid, Ultima and Progress (all Kyosho) all came from shops in Japan - a culture where old stuff isn't desired and gets left on a shelf.
I made contact with a Japanese chap and he would go get any car I wanted. On average they cost around £200 each or there abouts. This is maybe 10 years ago now. My NIB Cat XLS (now sold) came from a shop shelf in Spain. They also had a nib original rc10 but I didn't buy it. A guy I knew in the far east used to visit another country and I forget the details now but they had yankee electras, all sorts of PB buggies etc etc in a shop over there. He was going to get me one (a Yankee) but he ended up losing that job and didn't travel again. He offered me his new yankee but he'd built it and put a single colour orange paint over it. Gutted. So yeah - I'm sure old kits are still in shops in various countries but it must get more and more rare. I'd love a Yankee but you can't buy anything like that on ebay as it'll be crazy money.
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27-02-2014
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A friend of mine found the following for me in a small shop in Spain last year, all relatively cheap:
Shrinkwrapped original RC10 '93 Worlds Car Original Dyna Storm Kyosho Optima Mid Custom Kyosho Ultima Pro Cougar mk1 In 2012 I found 2 NIB Cat XLS's for 300 quid each but both are now sold. I'm sure there are more treasures out there. I love finding them, it's a buzz! I'd love to find a NIB Tomy Intruder EX as Naushad knows! Dan 
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27-02-2014
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I never thought I would buy a NIB kit from from the generation that I grew up in. The price premium was just too high. Tamiya Monster Beetle, Kyosho USA-1? No way...
I got lucky a few weeks ago and was able to buy these, and more though. Some were sold to help pay for the pile of stuff I bought, but a lot will be kept. I'm not even sure what I am going to do with the kit. The Monster Beetle will probably stay in the box because even if I built it, I don't think I would drive it. The USA-1 might get built so it can sit on the shelf with the Clodbuster and Double Dare. The Kyosho Lazer ZX new in box was tempting, but I was never super attached to the idea of having one. Same with the Tamiya Celica Gr B. These could be appreciated by someone else much more than me. It would be neat to have all kits from a lineage of a car. Like all the JR series from Team Losi, or all the RC-10 variants. I hope I can get my daughter hooked on the hobby enough to enjoy it too. And admire the older cars and the technology they had.
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14-03-2014
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