Schumacher Meeting Rd2 at Worksop

[Danny McGee]

leave it as is in my opinion. I dont like the idea of doing almost a lap before getting going for real. I always push really really hard on the first lap to build up as much of a lead as i can. So taking that away from me just wouldnt be fair :P

lol

danny

[bondy]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

I can see why, if the start line is a whole lap away from the loop then its a long time to start - the a mistake may make it 25-30 seconds til the start, which could make it so that car doesn't actually finish the race, it'll time out before it makes its last lap.

I thought the software they run only starts your individual 5 min run when you pass over the loop for the first time not when you hear your number called.. Could be wrong not sure Muzzy/Tim ?? "Think its on your number called cos when I got stuck behind someone on the start line thats why i had a 30sec 1st lap !

Sure thats how we did it in the olden days cos the first lap is were i used to and still do crash all the time !

Having the start a bit further round the track would be better than full lap !

[bondy]

Originally Posted by Danny McGee

leave it as is in my opinion. I dont like the idea of doing almost a lap before getting going for real. I always push really really hard on the first lap to build up as much of a lead as i can. So taking that away from me just wouldnt be fair :P

lol

danny

You need to send me your setup PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!!!!

[James]

having a first lap to cross the loop will cause all sorts of bizarre behaviour, as dan said if you're off first you want clear track infront of you, well if we have an extra lap (and if timing is set to begin when you hit the loop (can you clarify muzzy?) just wait for all to come round then set off in front of them and there you go .. clear track .. not exactly sporting though..

Can we confirm when your time starts - on the number or hitting the loop? Need to now this first really, Thanks J

[Danny McGee]

If you would like my setup send me a PM and i'd happily send you what i used at the weekend No probs. I dont have any secrets

Originally Posted by bondy

You need to send me your setup PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!!!!

[Chrislong]

The 5 minute time for each car does start when the car crosses the loop, not on number called, this is why the 10th or last car off usually waits an aditional second to get a clear run.

The 5 minute of the run, before the buzzer goes, starts from the end of the countdown - but cars don't finish until they cross the loop and the time for that car is above 300 seconds at that point.

Chris

[James]

Personal opinion is to leave it as it is then but make sure no awkward corners on the start line.. agree?

[mark christopher]

agree smokin, i found the corner onto the straight hard to judge and kept hitting the pipi on inside of corner, but im old and got bad eyes so.....................................im shafted even on an oval

[antnee]

yeah i found that corner a bit dodgey too, get it wrong and you can see your car because of the jump

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by smokin

Personal opinion is to leave it as it is then but make sure no awkward corners on the start line.. agree?

Wise

[telboy]

sounds like a good idea to me. Just have a short straight before the main straight.

We could start the cars somewhere under the rostrum or something like that.

But to be honest, I prefer the straight run to the loop to start with, cos if your gonna make a mistake on your first lap, then it gonna happen anyway. I would 've thought it would mess things up doing a full lap before the loop anyway. cos you'll start in order, but if you make a mistake on your first lap, then the order is going to be different before you get to the loop. So i would've thought it'd mess thing up on the comp.?

If you get my drift.

[mark christopher]

terry you rekon it sould mess somin up then mate

[Robbiejuk]

Why can't we have the loop on the straight? The loop runs across the track and to a connection box, this is then connected to a Co-ax cable AMB box at race control which is then connected to the laptop. Now cars going over the Co-ax isn't a problem as it's sheilded so they won't trigger a count, Only time that cars will count is when they either go near the loop or cross over the loop box.

So loop on the straight, double start line next to the fire door as it used to be. It would have to be like that for the indoor finals anyways to meet the BRCa regs.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Robbiejuk

Why can't we have the loop on the straight? The loop runs across the track and to a connection box, this is then connected to a Co-ax cable AMB box at race control which is then connected to the laptop. Now cars going over the Co-ax isn't a problem as it's sheilded so they won't trigger a count, Only time that cars will count is when they either go near the loop or cross over the loop box.

So loop on the straight, double start line next to the fire door as it used to be. It would have to be like that for the indoor finals anyways to meet the BRCa regs.

to be honnest i like this one

[Chrislong]

How about, the straight on the oposite side to the doors, and the loop at the end, double start line mid way up the straight - race control where it usually is, and rostrum on the side of the hall with the doors....

The thing is with having the loop at a distance from race control, is it will weaken the signal, and it depends on the length of coaxal they have - no.1 priority for me, is to have the loop where we know it'll count most reliably.

Chris

[super__dan]

Why not just leave it as it was???

[Chrislong]

Now then Dan, I like that idea the most...

[Northy]

Was fine as it was.

Here's one for you guys: If we start where we did, and the bit of track between there and the straight is NOT a straight, try going slower if your crashing on it, thats what you have to do every other lap you come round isn't it?

Don't dumb the track down just to make the start easier

G

[telboy]

weren't we messing around with the idea of having the rostrum at the other side chris? i'm sure we were. it could be worth trying.

we can have a mess around when we're there anyway, it'll be easier to work out when you've got everything in fornt of you.

[Robfo]

Why does the rostrum need moving?
The only minor problem with the track was that the corner going on to the straight was diffficult to see if you stood to the far right of the rostrum, thats easy to fix.
The loop was fine where it was and so was the starting grid. All we need to do is inform people that they must put there cars on the correct row at the start.
No need to mess with things that work!