How is the Vintage 1/10th off road scene?

[jimarea51]

Hi guys...

The way I see it is this...

I personally think that 4WD should run 27T or Stingers that were used last year, whilst the 2WD's can run no lower than a 19T. I feel this would even up things a little, therefore any advantage the 4WD's have in terms of grip and braking are lessened by the 2WD's being a bit quicker on the straights...

If people want to run 27t in their 2WD's then thats fine also...

Just my two peneth...

JImarea51

[Stu]

Sounds reasonable to me,

Dan?

[mattym0310]

i would like to run 20t HPI things like last year in my 6gear RC10, cos i dont really wna be spendin the extra money on brushes etc.

[Stu]

As long as it's less than 19t, that'll be fine.

[Northy]

I think we should be strick on the 1990 rule though

G

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Northy]

So maybe a list of whats not allowed......

I'll start:

XX4

[Medders]

Can we also have a rule that cells that were released pre-1990 have to be used??

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by Medders

Can we also have a rule that cells that were released pre-1990 have to be used??

How easy is it to find 1700 sce cells? Very hard. I think we should stay with the ones we have now otherwise not many people will turn up to one that stipulates that rule.

[Medders]

I'm not sure it's such a bad idea as you make out.

One of the key features of racing of old was trying to extract maximum performace without dumping.

Instead of having rules on motors, lets have a cell capacity limit instead. There's plenty of 1400 or similar packs/cells available at low cost.

[Medders]

For example:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=006

[mattym0310]

no, i dont think we should complicate things that much. i think we should stick to our normal cells as this idea would reduce the number of entrants by a long way as some won't have access to the older ones.

[JohnM]

Would a new re-release of the Hotshot be legal? Its 95% the same car as before, so still really a 22 year old car, just not broken yet.

[Stu]

If it's a Hot-Shot then it's legal.

Not important when the actual kit was made, as long as the original design for the car type is pre-1990.

Restricting the cells is gonna be hard work, I think Jim's 19t 2wd & 27t 4wd rule will work well and be enough.

[Medders]

I tried a 27T in my procat during lasts years vintage and I could have walked faster. Its too slow / underpowered for a 4wd.

Perhaps the cell limit idea was not the most practical, but can we at least stick to 19T for both classes?

[Stu]

Depends if there is enough entries to make two seperate classes.

Was it a modern 27 that you tried?

It really is a balancing act to get the most entries, some want 540 silvercans so they can run sand-scorchers without screwing them up, and there are those that want to run 19t in procats.

If enough people want to race we can run 2 classes that cater as best we can for all, but if not then we'll need to go with the middle ground.

Time to decide yet.

[Col]

Does anyone know of the Mardave cobra gearbox is the same as the meteor one? It seems mardave still do parts for the cobra but not the meteor...

[Medders]

Originally Posted by Stu

Depends if there is enough entries to make two seperate classes.

Was it a modern 27 that you tried?

I wouldn't describe it as modern but is wasn't a standard 540 either.

[super__dan]

I'm all for keeping it simple!

I tried my Mid with a 19t at batley and it really wasn't very quick, I was running 2000mah cells but that's what I'm planning on running at the vintage so a fair trial. It would be painfull with a stock in so my RC10 would have to come back out of retirement.

As I say I'll go with whatever the actual organisers want to do (G, Stu, Jim etc) but I'm keen for any motors up to a 19t to be allowed and we all run together but maybe 2wd and 4wd count in a different overall championship? Anyone running a sandscorcher isn't really going for the "racing" are they? So them chosing to run 540's is their discretion?

I think forcing people to find/buy old cells is a complete no no. I wouldn't touch those 1400 scr's with a barge pole.

Col the gearboxes are COMPLETELY different. The cobra is effectivly a modern std layout nd will handle decent power no probs (though diff balls are shite) A meteor gearbox is HUGE gears and the spur is actually a reducer gear with 2 sets of teeth on it. You have to run 32dp too and a very small pinion.

[Medders]

I think that hits the nail on the head Dan.

I'm all for going with the flow but the CAT just won't go with a 27T.

Good to see the ammount of interest in the vintage, should be ace