New rules here . . . at last

[qatmix]

what is the advantage of .64 pitch? Its just a gearing option.. What justification can be used to ban that?

[teamorsum96]

ist it just a finer for tunning your gearing?

[qatmix]

yep, which is why I cant see why it would be banned? Its just the same has having different shore tyres, different tyre depth etc..

[Karl Dransfield]

Originally Posted by qatmix

what is the advantage of .64 pitch? Its just a gearing option.. What justification can be used to ban that?

There is no advantage whatsoever to running 64dp, this is what I couldn't understand

[Karl Dransfield]

Originally Posted by 4_cell_racer

Dude I know how you feel about peeps whining lol thats why its taken me sooooo long to go over to 13.5 in my Dave, think this is my 3rd attempt to ditch the brushed and go to BL

Neither am I mate........the rules are a little vague for the class and I think need to be clarified more, so peeps know where they stand with regards on what can and cannot be used

Is it that time again...is it the summer series again? if so that seems a quick! if it is the summer series I should be there

Glad someone else shares my frustration lol. I'm sure everything will sort itself out.

Yep Ardent summer series on sunday I shall be there!

[KJR]

advantage of 64dp is that you may be able to run a higher final drive ration. The range of 32dp pinion and spur is quite limited.

Personally wouldn't run 64dp in anything other than my 12th but 48dp would allow me to use all my TC pinions and save having three different types of pinion.

[TOMO WEF]

Well mardave sell a 48dp pitch gear diff for the v12 so I cannot see why 48dp cannot be used.
The advantage of 64dp is a more efficient drive but the downside is a much more fragile drive train and a greater chance of stripping a spur.

[teamorsum96]

i agree

[Wynney]

Surely 48dp gears are not an issue as they can be bought from Mardave. But shouldn't the rules stipulate the available window or ratios? So any gear ratio as long as its listed on the Mardave price list, but doesn't have to be bought from mardave necesarily. Seems a no brainer to me and how the regs are written in lots of 1:1 forms motor sport.

The whole idea of the rules was to champion cheap racing but brought up to date, so if people have relevant parts in their pit boxes then they should be ableto use them, within reason.

[uop101]

Guys
Do read the rules, it does say in the FIRST paragraph that either 32 or 48 dp may be used.
64dp gears were not included because Mardave do not produce them and when I put the rules together I felt that the Mardave rear pod was too flexible for the fine mesh gears, one small bump and there goes another spur gear.
If Mardave produce an alloy motormount sometime in the near future (hopefully with proper ride height adjustment like the 1/12 or GT10) then this option could be looked at.

[ch!3f]

grow some balls people and except that the rules are the rules its to make things fair fair enough some folk will have to sell and buy new escs to run but its to make it close racing not whos got the most expensive gear in there car and haw fast it goes.

no more advantages over the lower budget racers makes fair racing but thats what there all worried about!

[Gazza]

Originally Posted by uop101

Guys
Do read the rules, it does say in the FIRST paragraph that either 32 or 48 dp may be used.
64dp gears were not included because Mardave do not produce them and when I put the rules together I felt that the Mardave rear pod was too flexible for the fine mesh gears, one small bump and there goes another spur gear.
If Mardave produce an alloy motormount sometime in the near future (hopefully with proper ride height adjustment like the 1/12 or GT10) then this option could be looked at.

PMSL I think James and me are the only two people that have read them
But please go back to page 1 and . . . R E A D

[teamorsum96]

Originally Posted by Gazza

PMSL I think James and me are the only two people that have read them
But please go back to page 1 and . . . R E A D

it does say 32 or 48dp. wow i dont need glassers lol
i have never even seen 64dp on a mardave only on old losi touring car.

[mcjjordan]

are the rules on first page correct?

ie have there been any updates as this thread goes along...

[Paulnuneaton]

I would not worry to much about the rules that are being drawn up i know james has been working hard on them but the body that was going to make the rules are just paper tigers. Nothing is passed by the brca quite a few guys sold good takle all for the point of thinking these rules where what they needed to do!!!!
i would wait and wait and wait until something is concrete not just jelly at the moment and the BRCA say they have adopted them and im sure that is a long way off !!!!

[mcjjordan]

anyone tried this combo yet?

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/modelspo...products/40027


looks like mtroniks/hobbytech
ie new mardave system?

[dodgydiy]

looking at this discussion of motors in a v12, the ezrun 13 turn finned 380 motor with a 35 amp ezrun speedo is pretty potent in a touring car, it seems to work ok in a v12 on 4 cell nimh, although it is a fair bit quicker than the brushed motor, dont have 1 cell lipos but i suspect a voltage booster may be needed and performance would surely be on a par with a full can 13.5 motor which costs considerably more. why cant something like these £55 combo's be adopted, they really are excellent value, the one i run in the touring car at club is over three years old and has had a lot of hours of abuse and still flies.

[Paulnuneaton]

The rules what were made hold no weight as they have not been give the go ahead by the brca just some guys who put some work into making the rules. this in turn started a mass panic people started selling good stuff because they thought these rules would be inforced.

shame because i think we lost more dave drivers over night so why re invent the wheel thats what i say.

we should get on enjoy what we are doing having fun with out the politics maybe just maybe after this years daves Nats then some rules can be batted about and worked on till then it game on as normal

[Chequered Flag Racing]

'Blinky' esc list posted on BRCA site.

No Nosram's on it though

http://www.brca.org/sites/default/fi...9;s%202011.pdf

[Mr Eccleston]

You would hope that the most sensible thing would be to use this list for speedo's, but perhaps with a price limit. It would save duplication and it's maintained by a well organised section of the BRCA (as they all are ). For those that want to use a different speedo it's just a case of getting it added.