Setups - Page 7

elvo · #**121** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by janus_77

a Starting setup for Kampenhout '08

Its the neutral, easy to drive, setup. Use ride height to adjust for your steering needs

WTF, trailing axles?

janus_77 · #**122** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by elvo

WTF, trailing axles?

As stated NEUTRAL, EASY TO DRIVE...... you didn't actually think I myself would use such a setup in racing conditions

.... you silly boy.....

I of course was using GT2 casterblocks and inlines and all the other stuff that makes a car nearly impossible to drive

. Didn't want to bother "normal drivers" with this insanity

( http://www.one-ten-rcforums.com/2wdr...pid=2834#p2834 )

Lee · #**123** 23-07-2008

What angle does using the GT2 blocks give, if i could make mine steer like an animal but keep the rear end locked in and went faster than everyone else lap after lap and didnt make a mistake, i might win

Gayo · #**124** 23-07-2008

hey Janus, can you tell us a little more about those GT2 blocks? I always found the X-6 steering a little dead on astro and indoors (gym floor) at low speeds, although it's perfect for dirt tracks.

Edit: Lee-Mag beat me.

janus_77 · #**125** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Lee

What angle does using the GT2 blocks give, if i could make mine steer like an animal but keep the rear end locked in and went faster than everyone else lap after lap and didnt make a mistake, i might win

GT2 casterblocks are availible in 25 and 30 deg (just like the normal ones) but you get an extra hole so you can run a 2-C front camberlink

SHY · #**126** 23-07-2008

Did anyone try inlines? The X-6 (or S2) being so stable, it might be possible to handle? You can never ever have too much steering!

How much is the caster normally on a 4WD? And why the f... don't we ever play around with that???

Go Lee-Mag!!!

janus_77 · #**127** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by SHY

Did anyone try inlines? The X-6 (or S2) being so stable, it might be possible to handle? You can never ever have too much steering!

How much is the caster normally on a 4WD? And why the f... don't we ever play around with that???

Inlines: http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=122 -> yes have been tried, I like it, rest of mankind somehow doesn't

4wd dont need much caster because its 4wd. They have, what, somewhere around 12 deg or something. If you did that to a 2wd it would loose all of its reaction speed.

Lee · #**128** 23-07-2008

Janus,

What is your full setup?

I have been thinking of playing with inlines, i like a super sharp car but with stability too. I cant do the point and shoot style, i need to carry corner speed.

janus_77 · #**129** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by Lee

Janus,

What is your full setup?

Well, you asked for it

SHY · #**130** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by janus_77

Inlines: http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=122 -> yes have been tried, I like it, rest of mankind somehow doesn't

4wd dont need much caster because its 4wd. They have, what, somewhere around 12 deg or something. If you did that to a 2wd it would loose all of its reaction speed.

Why don't 4WDs need as much caster?

I feel that when coasting I'd really like to have a lot more steering with my 4WD...

R-O-R piston???

sparrow.2 · #**131** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by SHY

Why don't 4WDs need as much caster?

I feel that when coasting I'd really like to have a lot more steering with my 4WD...

R-O-R piston???

4WD aren't made for coasting. Even with a one-way, you have to hammer it all the way. Stupid as it sounds, drive it harder and it will feel better...

I think he means Red-Orange-Red, so a Red piston with one hole drilled to the size of the orange piston holes.

@ Janus: are you driving in Arendonk?

Lee · #**132** 23-07-2008

R O R is just the 566 piston red hole orange hole red hole.

I think the caster thing is due to them having more weight up front, cars are also built so joe bloggs can drive them and not for the elite few.

SHY · #**133** 23-07-2008

Well, I'm a novice in OR, but I have a lot of track racing experience. And you for sure do benefit from caster in 4WD track racing. So I just don't see why it can't be the same for 4WD OR...

And in some corners you HAVE to coast

sparrow.2 · #**134** 23-07-2008

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Originally Posted by SHY

And in some corners you HAVE to coast

That's only because you haven't hit the brakes and swung it round hard enough at the beginning of the corner

How is married life? Congratulations by the way

SHY · #**135** 23-07-2008

Thx! It's great!

Now you're being oldfashioned!

These days you don't hit the brakes, you just steer and let tyre friction do the job (not always of course)... it's more consistent and gives better laptimes!

If you brake hard you'll be more or less standing still at some point = slower than always being on the move

Lee · #**136** 23-07-2008

SHY, when you watch all the top boys they all use the brakes, a lot will even use a diff up front so they can use the brakes. Granted they still carry a lot of corner speed but it just means they can go faster for longer coming into a corner.

sparrow.2 · #**137** 23-07-2008

I didn't mean throw an anchor

Just unsettle the car enough to swing the back end round and then hit the gas and let the oneway pull you through the corner. Only works with a oneway and mainly on dirt. Modern 4WD's feel as though the back end was just flopping along as an afterthought anyway...