UK Short Course Nationals 2011 / Short Course Shootout - Page 6

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson · #**101** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by mark christopher

der 8th have been running for years and have a set of established rules, myself and others are questioning the ruling!

Durr! EXACTLY!! This is only just starting up, so at least give the rule a chance before slating it! You don't think the 1/8th National rules were writen over night and suited everybody do you?

And as far as I can see, there is only you Mark that is getting your knickers in a twist about this reverse...Just turn up and race with what has been provided for you.

Live by the theory that we have at at worksop...If you help organise, plan and put your own sweat and tear's into making it work, then you are in a position to question rules and regulations. If not, turn up and race in what has been provided for you, and be thankfull someone has took there time to make it happen so you can race your shortcourse.

taz5311 · #**102** 11-04-2011

Fast Eddie,
Rest assured that this will not be an issue at the race events and hopefully stress will be kept to the minimum, a considered decision will be made by the organiser's (me being one of them) and that will be the final answer.
When and if we become sanctioned by the BRCA next year if the series takes off then we will abide by their rules and they will have the final decision.
To go back to richardj's original comment, your lad won't be banned for having reverse however he will be encouraged not to use it and this may help with his driving skills ( I just wait for the criticism of that statement.)

Fast Eddie · #**103** 11-04-2011

cheers taz, I will see you on easter sunday
why dont we all bring an egg and give it to the man/woman on your left and have some fun

mark christopher · #**104** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by Frecklychimp

I got the feeling that you won't exactly need targets painted on your car for this series Mark... remember, rubbing is racing

Easy to spot with a big "R tard" sticker on the roof.

When you look at BRCA regs... there is a lot that can be taken for granted,

The thing is Mr Christopher... you know and see where we are all coming from

yup i see where twisty and the others are coming from.
i know if i hit somone reversing out of a hose on a corner it will do just as much damage (if any) as if i hit it stationary or doing a u turn!

any one who want to get my colours in thier head my car truck looks like this

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson · #**105** 11-04-2011

I've got an idea, get all the people that want to use reverse and put them all in heats together.

taz5311 · #**106** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by mark christopher

you did not want to ask that did you?

17.6

At the Referees‟ discretion, penalties can be incurred for bad driving and/or corner cutting with any

one of the following, depending on the severity of the offence: Official Warning, Stop-Go penalty (Nationals
Only), 5 or 10 second penalty, 1 lap penalty, disqualification. The Stop-Go penalty area must be well

defined and in a position that is practical to operate.

so your point was?

Mark,
You have just answered your own question regarding reverse, It states in the rules (as they stand) that the USE of reverse will not be allowed, the same penalties outlined above will be used by the organisers to penalise the use of reverse at their discretion.

mark christopher · #**107** 11-04-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson

Durr! EXACTLY!! This is only just starting up, so at least give the rule a chance before slating it! You don't think the 1/8th National rules were writen over night and suited everybody do you?

And as far as I can see, there is only you Mark that is getting your knickers in a twist about this reverse...Just turn up and race with what has been provided for you.

Live by the theory that we have at at worksop...If you help organise, plan and put your own sweat and tear's into making it work, then you are in a position to question rules and regulations. If not, turn up and race in what has been provided for you, and be thankfull someone has took there time to make it happen so you can race your shortcourse.

im NOt slating it im questioning it

then go read the whole thread and look at twisty and others!

telboy · #**108** 11-04-2011

HAHA....Very funny MR christopher!!!

Touche!!

You can all hit Mr Christophers car because he is sponsored by DREMEL!!! so he will be able to repair it easily!

Frecklychimp · #**109** 11-04-2011

Lets just concentrate on the job at hand now...

Turn up on 24th April at Silverstone Buggy Club and blast some trucks around... i'm sure when the racing starts the moaning will stop for the laughing to begin.

One thing we have all overlooked in the heat of debate...

Mark, you are a bit optimistic in expecting to be using reverse all day to get out of hoses, is that a sorry admission of being rubbish when it comes to SCT battling?

mark christopher · #**110** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by taz5311

Mark,
You have just answered your own question regarding reverse, It states in the rules (as they stand) that the USE of reverse will not be allowed, the same penalties outlined above will be used by the organisers to penalise the use of reverse at their discretion.
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im fully aware that the rule is there, im questioning why use it. if it stays before round 1 then so be it!

the rule was added 24 hours ago, after it was questioned on here was reverse allowed, until that time there was no rule on reverse, and i for one asumed as it was not there prior then reverse was allowed.

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson · #**111** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by mark christopher

im NOt slating it im questioning it

then go read the whole thread and look at twisty and others!

The point is, there is no need to question it, these are the rules you have been given. Turn up and race and be grateful this series is even happening.

mark christopher · #**112** 11-04-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frecklychimp

Lets just concentrate on the job at hand now...

Turn up on 24th April at Silverstone Buggy Club and blast some trucks around... i'm sure when the racing starts the moaning will stop for the laughing to begin.

One thing we have all overlooked in the heat of debate...

Mark, you are a bit optimistic in expecting to be using reverse all day to get out of hoses, is that a sorry admission of being rubbish when it comes to SCT battling?

no i just know my truck is allways a bloody target, im currently talking to target
company on being sponsored

mark christopher · #**113** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson

The point is, there is no need to question it, these are the rules you have been given. Turn up and race and be grateful this series is even happening.

but the rule was NOT there 24 hours ago??????????????
oh and you got a big hook in your back...........

spyro · #**114** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson

I've got an idea, get all the people that want to use reverse and put them all in heats together.

This is an idea I was getting at when I asked my SERIOUS question earlier. Which I only got ONE answer to.

I can't find any reference to the use of reverse in any other class rules. (and no I haven't read them all).

I have never seen a 10th buggy reverse at a BRCA regional for example.

That's because it just isn't done as all race speedo's don't (didn't) have reverse.

Maybe this will change with the introduction of the RTR Mad Rats and the likes, and next year there will be a rule.

telboy · #**115** 11-04-2011

the micro section have banned reverse.

spyro · #**116** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by mark christopher

but the rule was NOT there 24 hours ago??????????????
oh and you got a big hook in your back...........

and it may not be there in another 24 hours time once we have finished the debate.

mark christopher · #**117** 11-04-2011

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Originally Posted by spyro

This is an idea I was getting at when I asked my SERIOUS question earlier. Which I only got ONE answer to.

I can't find any reference to the use of reverse in any other class rules. (and no I haven't read them all).

I have never seen a 10th buggy reverse at a BRCA regional for example.

That's because it just isn't done as all race speedo's don't (didn't) have reverse.

Maybe this will change with the introduction of the RTR Mad Rats and the likes, and next year there will be a rule.

tekin rs pro has reverse, novak kinetic has reverse.......trust me i have made the phone calls to check, there is nothing written as its allowed!