How is the Vintage 1/10th off road scene?

[Medders]

four of us turned up last time

and its under water

[AndyF]

oh.

Thats not good news. Is it buggy racing in general that as declined or just Batley.

Back in the day youngsters of 8 and 9 would turn up with hornets and frogs and race along side adults and teenagers with better 4wd cars. The cost was low(ish) because we all ran 27turn motors that would last 5 minutes on any old £10 battery pack. We had no special chargers or balancers??. A motor would last a couple of seasons with no maintainance and most people had a couple of sets of tyres that lasted a season.

I got out when the modified class became the std. Motors started to cost £50 instead of £10 - £15, with these you needed £50 battery packs and not just one to charge 5 times a meeting. All of sudden these same motors needed money spent every meeting to true the comm??? The kit prices had risen a little but it was the motors, batteries and ESC prices that turned it from a hobby for the young and young at heart into a specialised activity for the rich and dedicated.

I would like to race in the york vintage series this winter for nostalgic reasons. But with one battery pack and one motor!

[Col]

Last year there was a control motor for vintage. I think it was a 20t saturn? With these you could run most battery's and not worry about dumping. There is talk of another control motor for this years series - something a little hotter.
Most other things are still the same as when you left! Although if you shop about, you can still get stuff cheap.
Batley is usually a very well supported club (indoors especially) and 1/10th is probably the most popular class around.

[Oscar]

Originally Posted by AndyF

How is Batley Buggy Club doing? I notice they have no events scheduled on their website. When I used to go 17ish years ago we used to race every two weeks with std finals down to J and K and some modified finals too.

The club is still "OK" , however due to exceptional circumstances we have had very few club meetings over the last year or so.
Another contributing factor is that the calendar is so full with regional and national events, (which many key club members usually attend) it is difficult to schedule club days. We have had two of our few meetings this year cancelled due to adverse weather, which is once again rather less than helpful.
I do hope that later in the year once the larger events are over, we can get some more regular club days in, and I will organise a vintage/fun day if enough people are interested

[AndyF]

It is nice to hear that the club is still going. I guess like all sports the bar keeps getting raised. I don't remember spending time agonising over the shock oil i was using or adjusting the suspension every heat :-). It was enough to have tread on my tyres and a charged battery. Sounds like you guys are much more aware of the science and engineering behind the sport which is a good. Must be much more educational for the kids.

Do you still use 27MHz transmitters or did it all move to 40MHz. I think there was a move to 40MHz as I left the sport.

[Col]

The RTR kits come with 27mhz, but most aftermarket kits are 40mhz. Either can be used, but 40mhz is more popular. 2.4ghz (spektrum) is also becoming more popular

[AndyF]

2.4GHz, Better hope nobody as a wifi laptop on nearby!

[trekkerkk]

i see some people talking about bosscats are they vintage enough,
i cant quite remember what year they came out,
thanks

trekkker

[super__dan]

Not for york vintage, the procat only gets in by the skin of its bell (teeth).

[trekkerkk]

ok thanks,
start looking for an xls or procat then,

trekkker

[trekkerkk]

are all the belts the same from xls to bosscat,
the 2 rears and the 1 to the front,
as ive looked at the schumacher website and theyve got the boss cat belts,
thanks


trekkker

[AndyF]

You chaps have probably already seen this site. But if not and you are interested in old CATs then this is a cracking site

http://www.racing-cars.com/forum/for...sp?FID=14&PN=1

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by Stu

It was pre-1990 last winter.

The rule was only enforced loosely though.

We basically wanted no 'modern' cats, no XX's or B2's - you get the idea.

It was left up to the concience of the individual if they wanted to run something that was borderline.

Ok so if thats the case then, my 1990 RC10 with MIP 4wd belt conversion should be legal as well in the 4wd. If so then im going to have a giggle with this, and see how badly it actually performs.

[Stu]

It's possible we can run two classes, 'Vintage' and 'Retro'.

'Vintage' - up to 1989 - 27t stock motors?
'Retro' - up to 1995 - 19t stock motors?

The 'retro' class can be there for those that want to run Pro/Boss-Cats, Lasers, XX's, Cougars, ......

Two classes will give chance to those travelling a distance to enter both to get more racing in.

No reason a pre-1990 car can't be run in 'retro' with a 19t motor.

It would be nice to get a couple of Sunday meetings in.

All depends on demand.

[super__dan]

I agree potentially on 2 classes but defo got to be 19t motors in both for me, they were just too slow with the stingers in and they were 21turns.

James, it's an RC10 chassis design so it's defo in for vintage. Do you really actually have one???

[Stu]

Im a bit concerned that some of the proper vintage stuff, like the 6-gear's or chain drive stuff will just be ripped to bits with the power of a modern 19t stock.
I'm no expert but I suspect that a good 27t stock will be faster than them things we ran last year.

Time to decide yet.

[Welshy40]

Originally Posted by super__dan

I agree potentially on 2 classes but defo got to be 19t motors in both for me, they were just too slow with the stingers in and they were 21turns.

James, it's an RC10 chassis design so it's defo in for vintage. Do you really actually have one???

Dan,

Yup, MIP 4wd conversion on an RC10. Should be interesting to drive.

Oh yes one more thing, any reason why a 19t motor, as I was using a hell of a lot quicker in 89 and 90.

[VintageRacer]

The A finalists in 1987 Radio Race car series (modified class) were using 16 and 17 triples. All of them were racing CATs

[super__dan]

Stu, had a 19t in the mid which I ran after Batley regional. I can confirm it wasn't exactly fast, but no painfully slow like the stingers. Remember how much fun damo had when he used a 19t in the last round?

Of course this is my opinion and am happy to go with what you, G, jim etc decide

[OldTimer]

Originally Posted by Stu

It's possible we can run two classes, 'Vintage' and 'Retro'.

'Vintage' - up to 1989 - 27t stock motors?
'Retro' - up to 1995 - 19t stock motors?

If this is what motors are used i can see me coming upto york to have a play