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After reading everyones thoughts on this i've come to my own conclusions, and last post on this topic !
I run all manner of cheap and nasty corally type copies of both connector and tube and have NEVER had any problems. As far as soldering in your cells, and potentially making your car, un-switch-off-able in an emergency, is in my opinion, selfish, dangerous and should not be allowed. If the switch fails, or cannot be found quickly and easily in a marshalling incident, somone could get hurt. I appreciate the un-proven theories about why it's technically better (resistance etc) and I guess at the absolute top level it's acceptable (for reliability etc) and there are people running / marshalling that are experienced to deal with an 'incident'. At club level, where anyone could end up marshalling your car, in my opinion it's not acceptable . I would never solder in the cells, as I wouldn't want to be responsible for somone getting injured trying to turn off my car in an emergency. |
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I think soldering in cells is a touring car racer idea. I know of a few national racers who di it.
Apparently, it reduces resistance, and is more efficient  I just think its a pain in the derrier for an advantage that can only be, at best, minimally effective.
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all very true, it is down to personnel pref,
Andy we don't really do club days so that's out the window, matthew may not be quite top level driver yet but 99% of the time its at those race meeting we run at, f2 in 3 years i think is ace for a 15 year old kid, after seeing what happened to the other blokes car i will always Carry a set of side cutters now though, and because I'm his pit man no worries about it being marshaled in that case,but here goes the kiss of death,in most cases soldering is safer than connectors,my own opinion,not up for comment and argument,prove me wrong and ill listen my own experience says stick with what i got,i would rather listen to the likes of bradders cragg and the like than hear say on here,
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i woud have said tho this is a saftey issue as in a failure there is no quick way to disconect, and should some one be injured or burnt, then the outcome would be "not enough saftey measures taken, hence why "big" cars in motor sport have a cut off switch, who does the eisk assesments for off road ie the saftey officer?
those who are bleeting on about it wont let me down, show some consideration for the poor marshall who picks it up for you!
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we all accept the dangers in racing, and have the upmost consideration for marshals, but let go through all the pros and cons and get all the cons banned then we wont be able to race,
battery's for charging of, potential explosion risk, as a mechanic you will know that one, seen to many mechanics taken to hospital with acid burnt faces. ib 4200nimh extremely dangerous stay clear while charging we all seen them pickys, super glue bonds skin in seconds, acetone tyre remover extremely flammable potential toxic hazard not to mention a 2-3lb car hitting you in the shins were do we stop all this because one speedo went up in flames that was soldered what about the 10 20 that went up in flames last year no one mentioned them,and yes some were way more dangerous then the one at teesside, like the one that shot of into the crowd at full throttle,who was going to stop that one at 20-MPH whats the answer there, calm down, get of your horses
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well bloody said. the thing is with soldering direct in is a CHOICE over using corally conectors, which brings safty issues up as seen in the picture and told by youreself " bigred ". as for many of these things happening and not getting brought to attension, they did not get posted on the internet where a vast amount of people gather such as this site for opionions and such on almost anything. the thing is also, this has been blurted out on here as its the only picture of this ive seen on oOple / northern racer... regards to the ib 4200s charging is a must.... with out power means no racing ! lol i agree with what you say about most things being dangerous, but if it can be avoided isnt it best to do so ? Garry D. |
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He's not too fussed as it's his old speedo, and I think he drives for Nosram now anyway, so an LRP speedo isn't much use! Also, what a lot of fuss about soldering batteries in, can't it just be someones personal preference and leave it at that? Or does someone have to prove it's better than everything, ever?! Lol.
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all true as stated but connectors wont stop it, just possibly reduce the over all damage. giving the manufacture a chance to see what happened, a connector in any form whilst shorting is going to be bloody hot and will still burn your fingers, wire cutters or pliers are much safer, and in such will cut wire soldered or connector-ed,and as for the marshals no one wont's to get hurt or burnt,including me or my son, in the case of the car at teesside it would have reduced the overall damage had it been using connector and some one getting there in time, and again all here say after the fact again what ifs
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just personnel pref just some on here love the crusade, no matter what and are well known for it
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Come on guys, this arguement will go on and on and on and on so lets stop here...
Lets all agree on this if nothing else.... if a marshal who see's a shmocker and tries to help it, then refits the body and put it down as the cells are soldered - then so be it. But if the mechanic is trackside (such as Carl) then he can throw the wire cutters, or run over, and everyone is happy. As for safety, ice lollies give me brain freeze - but I don't see any hazard warning. |
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your a diamond, but your getting as random as northy lol love him to As for safety, ice lollies give me brain freeze - but I don't see any hazard warning hahahaha love it
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if you look at the pic closely, it appears that the external cable connector pcb is totally destroyed, then check also the huge glob of solder at the end of one of the cables and then have a look at the soldered joints to the motor, i was concerned at first becuase i run a similar speedo/ motor combi, but i'm not now.
As for marshals safety i've taken to wearing gloves (mainly cos its cold and i'm old) but they are a real godsend to protect against the idiots that have to hit full throttle when your handling it, which happens a lot more than frying speedos. |
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