Legalise Lipos

[Chrislong]

Benh, you have some good valueable ideas - but you didn't come to the AGM so don't be offended but you have wasted time in posting them now. sorry.

Have faith, the BRCA represent us well and the gears are in motion for Lipo. Just be patient and we can start a new thread and discussion once an EB list arrives and starts to get updated.

[DaveG28]

Originally Posted by Lindsay

All the talk seems be coming from people who have jumped the gun and bought Lipos hoping that they were all going to be legal.This happened way back when we only used to use 1200mm cells and 1400mm were coming out.[ remember Panosonic was not legalised at first ] From my dealings with the BRCA over the last 20 years you will not change their minds. So I suggest like most of the team drivers you wait while their is legal list B4 you buy.

TBH the only thing I'm worried about is that some of the 2008 cells were difficult to get hold of in time for the first national from what I remember, if we have a situation with saddle packs where there is currently nothing (as far as I know) that fits the rules, there may be a problem come Jan/Feb as one finally gets on the list then becomes like gold dust!

I did jump the gun and got Lipo's already, but then my NIMH were all kerfu**ed already, so it was buy Lipo or buy NIMH, I took the risk for an easy life over the winter and will live with it if I have to relook at it in the spring!

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Lindsay

All the talk seems be coming from people who have jumped the gun and bought Lipos hoping that they were all going to be legal.This happened way back when we only used to use 1200mm cells and 1400mm were coming out.[ remember Panosonic was not legalised at first ] From my dealings with the BRCA over the last 20 years you will not change their minds. So I suggest like most of the team drivers you wait while their is legal list B4 you buy.

same could be said about brushless motors they were used before they were legal, the rules came from the original motors!

there is another way to look at this, those with stick and saddle lipo now, may just buy a 4x4 that is already lipo freindly and choose to change chassis so they can run stick lipo! somthing ill consider.

[mark christopher]

did efra put a prosal in for a max capacity?

[SHY]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

did efra put a prosal in for a max capacity?

For the EFRA AGM there are 2 proposals (EFRA has not proposed anything in this matter). The one from BRCA (UK) states max length 139mm and max capacity 5000 mAH. The one from NMF (Norway) states no such limitations.

I suggest that those really interested take the time to actually read through the proposals here:

http://www.efra.ws/news/executive001.html

(It'll take you 5 minutes)

@Church: You left sunny California for rainy UK? Now that's gotta be a damn good lookin' girl you found!

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by SHY

For the EFRA AGM there are 2 proposals (EFRA has not proposed anything in this matter). The one from BRCA (UK) states max length 139mm and max capacity 5000 mAH. The one from NMF (Norway) states no such limitations.

I suggest that those really interested take the time to actually read through the proposals here:

http://www.efra.ws/news/executive001.html

(It'll take you 5 minutes)

@Church: You left sunny California for rainy UK? Now that's gotta be a damn good lookin' girl you found!

i have read em and the ic ones, and i have slept twice since then, when your old the grey cells fail you

so the new lrp/nosram ones would pass on dimensions and fail on capacity!

[Benh]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

Benh, you have some good valueable ideas - but you didn't come to the AGM so don't be offended but you have wasted time in posting them now. sorry.

Have faith, the BRCA represent us well and the gears are in motion for Lipo. Just be patient and we can start a new thread and discussion once an EB list arrives and starts to get updated.

Hi Chris. Fair point on the attendance, and no offence taken

I read your proposal and thought perfect. I was under the impression that a proposal is put forward, it's voted on, accepted or rejected and that's that. I wasn't aware of any influence by EFRA. It's quite a learning curve.

I'll take your advice and wait until the EB list comes out.

[Chrislong]

Hi Ben,
You have some good ideas and seem to have a better understanding of AGM's than I do, for some of us (me) the AGM is new and just what can be done whilst in them is a steep learning curve. It was very interesting and id go again.

[David Church]

[
@Church: You left sunny California for rainy UK? Now that's gotta be a damn good lookin' girl you found! [/quote]


I left smoggy California cause I was wanted for murder!! Lol

[niggs98]

I left smoggy California cause I was wanted for murder!! Lol

best ben and ash watch out at the nationals next year

[David Church]

Originally Posted by niggs98

best ben and ash watch out at the nationals next year

Mwhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!Schhhhhhhhhhhh

[DCM]

there is a reason behind the 5000mAh rating, being the amount of Lithium contained in the cell, and how much you are legally entitled to carry in one vessel onto an airplane.... so you fly to the euro's with 6000mAh cells, they can demand you leave them at home.... ahem not a good thing huh.

[DCM]

just out of interest, would it be worth getting a load of names together and email PW with a request that dimensions be put in to cover Saddle LiPo as well as stick?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by DCM

just out of interest, would it be worth getting a load of names together and email PW with a request that dimensions be put in to cover Saddle LiPo as well as stick?

i know about the 5000 limit

get one done if you have time , i.ll put my name on it, but im sure pw will have read this thread and take it into account

[DCM]

it would be better coming from a known driver, preferably national F2-1 driver, it would give a little more weight to it.

And assumption is the mother of all cock-ups dude, you should know that!

[David Church]

PW will def read this thread.

[DCM]

you got his eyes pinned open and hitting the refresh button every five mins huh!!!! top man haha.

Although the running of saddles doesn't affect me (good ole Tamiya lol), to not allow it will be just total madness as it would rule out so many chassis's available, new and old.

[David Church]

Originally Posted by DCM

you got his eyes pinned open and hitting the refresh button every five mins huh!!!! top man haha.

Although the running of saddles doesn't affect me (good ole Tamiya lol), to not allow it will be just total madness as it would rule out so many chassis's available, new and old.

I agree, just out of curiosity, cant they make saddle packs that meet the proposed size???

[bigred5765]

Originally Posted by DCM

just out of interest, would it be worth getting a load of names together and email PW with a request that dimensions be put in to cover Saddle LiPo as well as stick?

we ask for no dimensions at all, just a nom voltage of 7.4,and it was pw that suggested that,

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

we ask for no dimensions at all, just a nom voltage of 7.4,and it was pw that suggested that,

gets my vote

allot less hassle too for scruiteneers


a senario

track power make thier saddle packs 3mm shorter (1.5mm per case) to the naked eye they would look identical, so would all have to be measured!