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I see your point Colin and sort of agree with it , but I think there are not enough experienced drivers for this yet.
There are so many new drivers at the moment that we need to concentrate on bringing them along and then matters will take their own course.
At the moment we need to concentrate and build on what we have.
Just a thought ( I have seen things disappear in other forms of motorsport by trying to move too quickly)
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I agree with most of Colin`s points too and I love to go to different tracks and have the challenge of racing on them but last year i did go (Even stayed overnight in Ballymena to attend that race) and there was hardly anybody there.....and as I said previously I dont see why it would be different this year .....i wish it was. I enjoyed racing at the tracks in Ballymena and Navan but there was 3 times as many racers in the naul last sunday...i dont know what the solution is but being realistic a repeat of last years nationals will give the same result....need to see what worked and what didnt and learn from that....and in fairness it should reflect the type of racer who is commited to the sport and is out every sunday of the year (and I am not in that group)
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I do agree Ivan that there are new drivers who lack experience and maybe for them Nationals , regional whats ever are not for them and these guys need a chance at club level to develop enough to be comfortable. National/regionals are not everyones cup of tea. Again we are only talking 3 - 4 weeks a year with no club racing. There are very few people racing the other 48 weeks a year surely as a club or group of racers we can make the effort for those few weekends.
There is a large enough section of whom have a few years racing under their belt and its these guys who we need to get out there. Get them out of there comfort zone to help improve them to the next level otherwise they will be stuck at a point with no development. The new guys wont have lads to learn from because they lack experience.
In the end what may happen is if there is no development of the section the lads who want to compete and challenge themselves or be challenged will end up racing elsewhere in different classes taking that racing knowledge out of the class and leaving a void which will be very hard to fill.
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this isn't a public slagging match..this is just a few members who are rc nerds discussing their hobby..that's what forums are for..there is nothing personal being said here..no one is having a go at anyone or the rccaoi..there may be issues between certain individuals I don't know and don't really care what it's about..
it's nobody's fault it's the way it is..there isn't the proper venues for 1/10..
the rccaoi can't help that nor can we..
1/8 tracks of course arnt perfectly suitable for us but at the same time I don't expect these clubs to go out of their way to accommodate ..they have given us their tracks to use and slightly change to try to entice 1/10 as it befifits them too in numbers racing..I thank them for this..
I've know people on and off all my life and some just prefer the relaxed nature of club racing..
tbh I still prefer the focus and pressure bigger events and nationals give but at the same time I'd prefer to go to a club round with 30+ drivers than a national with 10 split across 2 classes..there's just no atmosphere ..
I don't have the answers..I don't think it will improve and the next step? who knows.
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Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/HLtyXz-aUbw

great indoor track I found.
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Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/HLtyXz-aUbw

great indoor track I found.
Great track & I think it's in a smaller space than we have in the Naul? or about the same?

The only comment I have regarding all the recent posts is:

We have many more things in common than there are differences between us
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You will gain more experience by attending 4 national rounds or another big event in a season than you will racing a whole year in the one place, I'm sorry Ivan but the class will become stale if it stays the same and the newcomers will learn next to nothing .
Dont agree fully with that Dave.
Newcomers i think need to feel competent at a club level ie. ( drive a race without crashing) before moving on to compete in a national etc.
Yes the big events are more challenging and fun but they have to have the numbers to be so.
If you go to a National you want to compete not just make up the numbers.
You will definately learn more competing against 20 drivers at a club round than 3 or 4 all a lap apart at a national !
Dont take this the wrong way as there is a definite need for national`s etc but this class is only taking off now so lets all work at it to further the interest and do what is best for the sport.
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Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/HLtyXz-aUbw

great indoor track I found.

Great looking track apart from that thing in the far left corner.

Just goes to show what could be done in the space we have in the Naul.
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Just goes to show what could be done in the space we have in the Naul.[/QUOTE]

They have made great use of the space available....looks fantastic
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Hello all
This is my opinion only I do not speak on behalf of any group

I do feel that the nationals are important and should be kept.

I DO FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE A MIXTURE OF VENUES and certainly not kept in the one venue
This will not develop driver ability ( AS COLIN SAID )
Driver development should be encouraged as much as possible, after all that is how one will only improve.

The problem as i see it is there are not enough drivers either to compete or interested in competing as such a high level.
They are either not good enough ( and do not see the point in competing as there is no chance in getting anywhere, for what ? ),
not experienced enough (big events can make a newcomer or learner feel out of place) as SOMETIMES when they need some help in setup people are busy and to caught up in their own day, forgetting others,
or just plain not interested in that level and just want to remain at club level as they enjoy it or suits them.
I have no interest in racing at that level yet as personally I’m not consistent enough yet to benefit from it.
Either way there are racers out there who need, want or have to have the nationals to better their ability and fair enough they should have the series. But if the nationals want to attract more, it needs to be more driver friendly, easier for beginners, fairer, and above all ALL DRIVERS treating everyone else with respect and courtesy.

Stop NAGGING, MOANING, WHINGING when the slightest goes wrong or “He did this “ “ he did that “ “that’s not fair” Rules are there for a reason and if you are going to race at that level, new, learner drivers, should be shown what is expected at the level and EXPERIENCED DRIVERS should lead by example.

We all want the sport to grow so
1 lets work together,
2 Support other venues
3 Remove or cut the red tape that is been created. It is a hobby not F1

The naul venue is UNFORTUNATELY restricted in width. There is nothing we can do about it. It is only 10.5m wide and therefore only so much we can do.
I love the video and great track yes but that is wider than we have so not possible.
Also there is the financial aspect. We only have a limited budget to do things but we hope to ( in time ) change it and make a few things better, but this will only depend on the size available.

This is a general observation meant to be taken constructively.
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hi guys..just a point about the video..ive read some posts about the video and comparisons with naul..I didn't post the video to say we should do this or do that..it is a great little track that I really liked and thought id share it..I had no intention of pointing it out to dmcc as an example of what needs to be done.i hope they take it in the context it was meant..if a few ideas are taken from it then fine but meant no disrespect to what they have already done..the club has helped me this last two years with constant racing at their club to bring me to the level I'm at now..things take time and money..I rather enjoy naul at the moment..track is really technical and you can't take your eye off the ball for one second or you will crash..good concentration practice lol..
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Hi Mark
All was taken in good spirits
I was not getting at anybody
I know you were not getting at the track or anything like that
What i said was a general opinion
This is all for discussion to see how we can make things grow and get better
Not aimed at you or what anyone said
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What a great days racing yesterday in all classes, good clean close racing well done to all and a real close finish lined up for the championships with it all at stake going into the final round.
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What a great days racing yesterday in all classes, good clean close racing well done to all and a real close finish lined up for the championships with it all at stake going into the final round.
Agreed, really enjoyed it. Specially 4wd!
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What a great days racing yesterday in all classes, good clean close racing well done to all and a real close finish lined up for the championships with it all at stake going into the final round.
Yeah great days racing yesterday.....especially enjoyed the about 8 minute 2wd heat in middle of day!!!!
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Yeah great days racing yesterday.....especially enjoyed the about 8 minute 2wd heat in middle of day!!!!
Ya thanks vicky
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