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[Evsie]

Originally Posted by bodgit

Remember the lorry drivers and oil refinery blockages about 10-11 years ago and that was just for 90pence lt

Yeah remember that well, the police/authorities imposed laws/condtions on them and if they went against it they'd all get arrested so they simply don't bother any more.

They were protesting down the M4 one day and the police warned them to only use the 2 inner lanes, stick above 30 mph and then turn around when they got to the Severn bridge. Otherwise they'd be nicked.

All the boys in blue would do these days is Tazer you at the first sign of resistance and you'd probably spend more time in prison than a paedophile would.

[Thargor]

thats the way it works aint it??? government want more money so put up taxes and people complain... so government put taxes down.... then government pass laws against complaining and then put taxes back up...... simples
goes back to roman times i think, so that the rich stay rich and the not so rich have to deal with it....

[Thargor]

solution? get out of england before they put a law on that? oh wait they have done that too......
overthrow the government?

[bodgit]

I can see the rise of 125cc commuter bikes on the way. If your thinking that yourself get one quick before sellers realise they can get more money for a 90-100mpg bike.
locally its gone up another 3pplt in the last 3 days now 136.9 for diesel

[DCM]

I am seriously considering LPG conversion again....

[Danosborne6661]

Hmmm.. good thought, how much would a typical LPG conversion cost?

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by DCM

I am seriously considering LPG conversion again....

Again? Your thinking of a 2nd conversion on same car

[steveproracing]

Average price for a good quality LPG conversion is about £2500

I've had 2 cars on LPG. Between them I used LPG for something over 7 years. It's very good but has a few downsides

1 knowing where LPG stations are
Long trips require meticulous route planning for fill ups
Nationals etc were a scary prospect at times cos once u have LPG the last thing u want to do is fill up with petrol
It just feels like burning money!!

2 the space the tank takes in the car
Now, there are donut tanks that replace your spare wheel but they are either small volumes or they do intrude into your boot
Or there are the tanks that replace your petrol tank
But that makes point 1 even more scary!!
Or there is the big boot mounted tank that fills half your boot!!

3, you loose about 5-10% bhp on average running on LPG


However it is MUCH cheaper than petrol
On average u save about 40% per tank

Fuel prices are half of petrol I hear you cry but
U do not get the same mpg on LPG. On average 10-15% less than petrol
Thus creating an overall saving around 40%


If u have a thirsty car( mine were yank 4litre engines)
U save alot and very quickly offset that initial layout of £2500

Hope I've given u guys food for thought

Just wish I could do my diesel. Seemed a reasonable buy when it was only 90p a litre (2007)

[bodgit]

What was the stuff people were buying from super markets to use in their diesels. Seem to recall tesco,s etc banning you from buying more than so many bottles of cooking oil or something like that. Did it really work ?

[i4n]

It was cooking oil.

This old (ish) top gear video tells all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOFbsaNeZps

[Bungleaio]

Originally Posted by steveproracing

Average price for a good quality LPG conversion is about £2500

Christ, makes mine look a bargain at £1600

[colmo]

Originally Posted by bodgit

What was the stuff people were buying from super markets to use in their diesels. Seem to recall tesco,s etc banning you from buying more than so many bottles of cooking oil or something like that. Did it really work ?

I know one chap who did it (mixed with diesel) - he said it was better than diesel alone.

He's since moved on to a heating oil/diesel mix! His cars are cheap and disposable...

Remember that the original Diesel engine ran on peanut oil.

[dodgydiy]

know someone who uses heating oil, chip fat+ spirits and basically anything else that he can find in his diesel, its quite an old renault but it goes fine, just smells a bit funny. diesel 142.9 at the garage down the road today

[DCM]

Originally Posted by Chrislong

Again? Your thinking of a 2nd conversion on same car

Nah, sold the last one, as being Renault, it kept on going on strike regularly....

LPG conversion, for a multi-point injection, 50L fuel tank etc was £1400 incl VAT. The conversion was really good to be fair in the Espace, lost the spare but lost no room either in the boot, was barely a loss in performance either. And as most of my driving was local, I knew where all the filling stations were (24Hr and office hours).

[daz]

Originally Posted by bodgit

I can see the rise of 125cc commuter bikes on the way. If your thinking that yourself get one quick before sellers realise they can get more money for a 90-100mpg bike.
locally its gone up another 3pplt in the last 3 days now 136.9 for diesel

Just done this fella, bought a cheap little Yamaha 125 sit and screw. Feel a bit of a tit riding it, but when it does around 100mpg it dont matter. Certainly beats 18mpg the BMW was doing lol.

[RogerM]

Please don't be tempted to use veg oil etc in modern diesels ... certainly nothing common rail. The bill will be hefty, maybe even enough to write the car of in pure economic terms.

[SlowOne]

What do you bet that the tax on LPG goes up appreciably in the next few years??!!

[Crazy L]

The price of jungle juice is criminal to say the least. I have a standard 1.8 A3, it drinks it like its going out of fashion, so have taken to riding my Motorbike (YZF 'Ace) to work cos it halves the fuel bill, but I'm now considering a L plate hack as a commuter (£15 a year to tax takes me back a few years).

Ride motorbikes, Quick, before the Government ban that too (you think I'm joking)

[jimmy]

Even my smart car feels like its drinking fuel like mad these days - the lotus has been out once this year!

[Dave Dodd]

Originally Posted by dodgydiy

know someone who uses heating oil, chip fat+ spirits and basically anything else that he can find in his diesel, its quite an old renault but it goes fine, just smells a bit funny. diesel 142.9 at the garage down the road today

I know a couple of people who do that, always make me want chips for dinner

50:50 mix is usually okay in older cars providing its not mega cold