47th Shizuoka Hobby Show 2008

[telboy]

I've heard that the kyosho is doing bloody good in the states.
So expect the cars to be better than people expect.

Shame I just sold mine.

[BradR]

Originally Posted by JohnM

I think you'll find the 501x looks alot more of a Yokomo BX clone

That is true for the chassis layout, but the suspension geometry is an exact copy of the BJ4. The Tamiya prototypes actually used entire BJ4 suspension assemblies, CVDs, body, etc.

[jimmy]

Right down to the pistons! how did I get such a good setup on the 501X straight away? I built it with the BJ4we setup I used.

[mes]

I wonder how many B44/BJ4WE/FS drivers will take their old BJ4s/SPs off the shelf when LiPo will finally be allowed and they notice that the saddle LiPo is screwing up the weight distribution of their cars...

[Cruise]

@mes:They will run Schumacher Cars.

Cruise

[JonBoy]

Originally Posted by Gayo

I can tell you that jonboy's french is worse than 40% people in the UK !

MWAHAHAHAHAH........lololol........ How are you doing mate!

[RogerM]

Originally Posted by Neil Skull

Hi Dom,

All stock comes from the european warehouse in France.
As you know takes 2 days to be delivered from ordering.


How is your guy getting on with hs car? sorry i dont know his name.

Hi Neil, it's not Dom it's Roger Mills (clue is in my forum name ..lol)

I am getting on well with the cars, thanks for asking. I am now fairly sure that I wouldn't be going any quicker with any other chassis brand in both classes. Any performance limitation has more to do with my thumbs than the Kyosho products!

The RB5 was a bit of a struggle to start with but a combination of getting used to 1/10th 2wd (not run one since 2003 or whenever the B4 came out). I now am very happy with the car and the key has been finding the correct droop balance.

The ZX5-SP has been great from the begining but has been getting better with each testing session. I am very happy with the car now.

I have been getting quite a few people to drive my cars and so far, certainly with the current base set-ups, have not had any negative feedback on either car. Several people have taken the cars on based on driving mine. I also intend to do a build guide for both cars now I have a little more time to help people who want to run the cars get going well straight from the box.

[BradR]

Originally Posted by mes

I wonder how many B44/BJ4WE/FS drivers will take their old BJ4s/SPs off the shelf when LiPo will finally be allowed and they notice that the saddle LiPo is screwing up the weight distribution of their cars...

There are a few drivers here in Florida who have gone back to the original BJ4 chassis layout (but keeping the other updates from the BJ4WE) with LiPo stick packs. Because the LiPo packs are so much lighter than NiMH, they actually add weight to the battery side of the car. They also add weight to the rear (right in front of the rear suspension mount) to get weight distribution similar to the BJ4WE. The guys running that setup say the love it, and the car is still lighter than with NiMH batteries.

[Neil Skull]

Originally Posted by RogerM

Hi Neil, it's not Dom it's Roger Mills (clue is in my forum name ..lol)

I am getting on well with the cars, thanks for asking. I am now fairly sure that I wouldn't be going any quicker with any other chassis brand in both classes. Any performance limitation has more to do with my thumbs than the Kyosho products!

The RB5 was a bit of a struggle to start with but a combination of getting used to 1/10th 2wd (not run one since 2003 or whenever the B4 came out). I now am very happy with the car and the key has been finding the correct droop balance.

The ZX5-SP has been great from the begining but has been getting better with each testing session. I am very happy with the car now.

I have been getting quite a few people to drive my cars and so far, certainly with the current base set-ups, have not had any negative feedback on either car. Several people have taken the cars on based on driving mine. I also intend to do a build guide for both cars now I have a little more time to help people who want to run the cars get going well straight from the box.

Hi Roger,

Sorry for the confusion i just spotted the dc racing and made the connection.

good to hear you happy with the cars.

Had some good feedback so far especially on the RB5.

[Darren Boyle]

Interesting thread.............

Good to see the "Kyosho Crew" on here, Neil chomping on Nachos, Karl getting hooked on oOple surfing and "FDL" Jean digging himself a bomb hole!! Interesting to see Mike not here, he must be on the sunbed again (eh Neil ... private joke), but I know he is aware of this thread since we spoke about it yesterday.

Kyosho do offer team drives to any shop who wishes to sponsor a local driver or two, but as already said they would prefer to get both cars up to speed, competative and sign up so "superstars" before they make a big push. Things dont happen overnight and as I think Marc Knight said they missed the start of this season so next season will be the aim for them.

As far as some of the earlier comments about not being able to get the spares, we have had large stocks of most of the Lazer ZX5 and Ultimas RB5 ones all on the shelf since the days the cars were released. We have had very few parts ever out of stock and they always arrive in quick fashion from Kyosho UK from the french distributor (in fact some fo their deliveries are quicker than some of the UK based suppliers are at present!!)

Kyosho UK are not doing a great deal wrong, they are also expanding their products lines with BIG name brands too and giving a good back up and service along the way. They just cant run before they have mastered the art walking.

[Neil Skull]

Hi Darren,

thanks for your kind words, are you after a discount?

Being straight it is shops like yours and Marc's that do the best job for any brand of car or any model. You stock all the parts and give great support to the racing crowd.
Thats all they/we want.

And yes our range is growing

[Adam Skelding]

Originally Posted by jimmy

Must just sneak over the top somehow - where's Skelding when you need to quiz him.

It does indeed sneak over the top quite ingeniously

[Karl Marsden]

Originally Posted by Neil Skull

Hi Darren,

thanks for your kind words, are you after a discount?

Being straight it is shops like yours and Marc's that do the best job for any brand of car or any model. You stock all the parts and give great support to the racing crowd.
Thats all they/we want.

And yes our range is growing

Hey guys, what with Darren wanting discount, Neil doing some quality brown tongue with our customers, and Mike on the sunbed eating all the Nachos, don't forget the Northan base of oOple racers that need looking after up here! That's my job I guess

Basically Neil is right, good race shops will always be just that, and you will already find a few more shops up here in a position to order stock in, or have Kyosho on the shelves without too much hassel. I have had a great reception to stocking Kyosho, so fingers crossed and a little more time, you won't need to go down south with your passport to buy Kyosho anymore

Shame Tel Boy appears to have passed completly to the Dark Side, wait till I see him........ Looking at his banner, he must have a thing going on with Skelding, as the pink theme is popular

Back to basics, club & regional racing with local top drivers attending, with a club/regional qualification to national meetings the following year will force top racers to have to race locally. Less milage, lower costs, more fun, and putting something back into local clubs and shops will attract the NEW racer of the future. It's just always been my personal opionion, due to the fact I think that when you look back, all the big names of RC have come from that format of racing.

I was very fortunate to be sponsored at such a level, and I would love to help improve the lack of "new blood" entering the class and see our sport move forward again with a bunch of beginners!

Any clubs intrested in letting new Kyosho owners race for free if we bang out a free race pass when they buy a NEW Kyosho readyset or Nitro, regardless of what style of buggy, truck or touring car? That's Kyosho Karl's idea should any other distributer dare to claim it as their idea Let's look at the big picture. If you see a new racer at the track, make them feel welcome guys, we all had to start somewhere....

Happy Racing, and thanks for all your support on behalf of Kyosho UK....

BTW-Neil, call Darren & Mark for that large spares order on Monday for RB5 & SP, it was worth a fiver to get him to say that

Good to hear from you Darren, both you and Mark know what it takes to keep the racers rolling....

[Karl Marsden]

Originally Posted by Adam Skelding

It does indeed sneak over the top quite ingeniously

speak of the devil and he appears, right in the middle of a Kyosho thread.

Ads, you in the wrong place mate

Only joking, you are always welcome in the Kyosho club, be like old time mate.......

How you doing buddy!

[Darren Boyle]

Karl, the thread started about the announcement of the new ZX5 FS AND teh HB Plastic D4, that is why Adam is here..............

[caneye]

back to shizuoka ... any other interesting cars?
HB D2 perhaps?

[telboy]

Shame Tel Boy appears to have passed completly to the Dark Side, wait till I see him........ Looking at his banner, he must have a thing going on with Skelding, as the pink theme is popular

Hahahaha , Adam is good to us. Should be the team manager!

You'll have to work hard Karl.

Although, I did like the RB5.......

[Karl Marsden]

Originally Posted by telboy

Hahahaha , Adam is good to us. Should be the team manager!

You'll have to work hard Karl.

Although, I did like the RB5.......

Hi Tel, the main thing is that people are racing....and enjoying it mate....I can't do anything about having Adz as your team manager though

It's enough to get the transmitter out again, I can tell you I miss the banter.

[Karl Marsden]

Originally Posted by DMS Racing

Karl, the thread started about the announcement of the new ZX5 FS AND teh HB Plastic D4, that is why Adam is here..............

Hi Darren,

I was just getting used to this Forum stuff, whilst enjoying a stella and a late night surfing, it's good to see buggies again.......where it all began for us hey.

No idea just yet on ETA of Kyosho ZX5-FS, but the intrest is really good.

Just to confirm that I think the SP was basically a tidy up of the ZX5 and the seperate SP conversion kit, so new customers could simply buy the latest spec in one box to keep it simple.

The Kyosho ZX5-FS is Kyosho new car fitting in with the usual cycle of launching new product.

Kyosho do have many new projects at the show, take a full look here:
http://kyosho.com/eng/event/presentl...bby/index.html

[telboy]

Originally Posted by Karl Marsden

Hi Tel, the main thing is that people are racing....and enjoying it mate....I can't do anything about having Adz as your team manager though

It's enough to get the transmitter out again, I can tell you I miss the banter.

Are you coming to do some racing then? I can tell you, I'm deffo enjoying the off roading at the moment, soooo much better than the TC's.

Mr Skelding isn't team manager, just saying that he ought to be. Ben is Team manager at the moment.