Tamiya Durga DB01 EP Buggy (A cheaper 501X?)

[wayneski]

Cheers, will have a look in the morning. Having trouble seeing 1 or everything a the mo. Not that I have drunk too much or anything!

Good luck at the weekend, have got got any other hop ups fitted?

[werner1619]

No sweat

[jimmy]

Just those three things. I have a screw kit but have been too lazy to fit it


Speaking of screw kits - Tonys Screws have kindly offered to donate their new durga kit for the winner of the Durga in the oople competition! So you don't have to mess about with the phillips screws
I'm really happy about that as it will make the build a lot more pleasent and having used Tonys screws in the past there's no nicer build than using those.

Tony will have the screw kit available online shortly (I'll post when they're available) and there will be a little discount for oople forum members too we love Tony.

[wayneski]

look forward to hearing how it goes

[Metla]

Originally Posted by Northy

Why do you think an 'indoor track' or 'grass' doesn't test a car to it's limits?

G

Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.

At the end of the day, The conditions are harsher.

Now, Seeing as I had no idea people were so sensitive about not actually using their off-road buggies in an off-road enviorment, I'll add this little disclaimer, On the day, the most skilled driver with the best run will win no matter what the track surface, No slur was intended on anyones manhood, womenhood, or driving abilities.

[werner1619]

Melta,

Good for you, every one has their own opinion. Thats why I read forums, to see what other people think. Just keep cool when sticking to your point. Not pointing to you Malta, but everyone.

One day I felt quit negative and all that came trough on my posts. Lucky people noticed and I changed my aditude.

So how about that Durga DB01, I have entered the compition an d hope I win it....

[DCM]

Actualy the surface you race on determines the type of tyre you use mostly, and Tiverton was a level playing field as most if not all cars worked there within reason. When you start putting ruts, jumps and bumps in, that really tests things, whether it be on dirt, grass or astro.

The biggest difference in dirt and grass/astro is the grip level, on dirt, you are fighting to find grip, on high grip, it causes a whole different set of issue.

[Toonz]

can these yellow dish be use on the durga?

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3026

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3027

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Toonz

can these yellow dish be use on the durga?

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3026

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3027

yes!

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Metla

Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.

At the end of the day, The conditions are harsher.

Now, Seeing as I had no idea people were so sensitive about not actually using their off-road buggies in an off-road enviorment, I'll add this little disclaimer, On the day, the most skilled driver with the best run will win no matter what the track surface, No slur was intended on anyones manhood, womenhood, or driving abilities.

I don't even know what you're talking about but I did notice you changed your argument from testing cars, to testing drivers. And in a way, yes you are correct. But since you now agree with me that it would be nice to have some dirt tracks over here with big well-sclupted jumps, I think we can be best buddies again.
I don't mind that you didn't like my review and thought it was flawed. But since you are saying things we agree upon - but STILL want to argue and pick fights then i think you need to go away and come back when you can talk reasonably and respectfully about things.

[sparrow.2]

Originally Posted by Metla
Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.

I don't think he quite realizes what indoor tracks look like. I find carpet has way more grip and the edges of the track are usually harder too. Basically indoor is a hell of a lot harder on the car than dirt will ever be.

@ Metla: If you really want the warehouse approach, try comparing motocross and supercross... At least that would make some sense

it would be nice to have some dirt tracks over here with big well-sclupted jumps

Suppose you always want what you don't have... I'd love to race on more grass or astroturf tracks in Germany

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Metla

The abilities of the chassis and box standard gear isn't exactly being pushed to its limits on an indoor track, Or on grass.

Here's some of Jimmys photos to show just what we run on, most of our tracks are multisurface.

Indoors - surface usually a mix of high grip carpet (which puts a lot of stress on the buggy) and very low grip wood or plastic
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/southportgp2008/
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/worksop251107/

Outdoors
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/oswes...7national/4wd/
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/stotf...ional2007/2wd/

Originally Posted by Metla

aye?
Don't you guys have dirt tracks over there?

Why we don't have dirt tracks
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/kidde...007/kid130507/
We don't go home when it rains or we'd never race.

[Spoolio]

Originally Posted by wayneski

I know I'm being lazy but what are the size of the balls? Want to get some kanzen ones to put in my oneway (and rear diff too I suppose).

Cheers

According to the manual they're 3mm. I've ordered some from Kanzen but they are taking forever to arrive, its been 11 days so far. Its a bit of a bugger that they come in packs of 10 'cos you end up with 6 spare. Have decided to build it with the kit bearings and change over when they wear out - hopefully the slipper will minimise the wear.

[Metla]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I don't even know what you're talking about but I did notice you changed your argument from testing cars, to testing drivers.

I can see that , But no, I haven't changed my argument, It just went over yours and it seems everyone else's head. Using a person as an example was to demonstrate the extra stress applied when on a rough environment that changes with use, Your dead level static surfaces are sanitized in comparison. The harder the conditions, The harder every component must work (not tires as such, But the entire chassis and everything attached to it) The harder the components are working, The sooner their limits are reached, Hence my view that the shocks are worthless, and others saying they are fine.

Furthermore, I don't think your review was flawed at all, I think it reflects the conditions you tested it under, And that would be the case for every review done by any person on any gear.

Anyway, I"m finished with the subject.

[PaulRotheram]

Good, have a nice day

[Carlos69]

I got these from Precision RC....ceramic thrust bearings...pre assembled
http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=53980
they also do a dozen 3mm ceramic ball sets....

[General Accident]

Hi, apologies if this has been touched on before but I am screwing my DB01 together now and wondered whether to stick with the kit spur or use an Associated 87t one I have in my spares box. I will be running with a 7.5T brushless motor.

[wayneski]

So jimmy, how did it go?
Was at kiddy again today. Boucing quite a bit at the rear so I think it's time to try the 501 shocks.
Met Simon from stoke there (says he knows you) Jeee suus can that man drive!
Embarrassed by my ineptitude doesn't quite cover it. Top fella though.
Is there a guide or a faq somewhere that will explain to me in words of 1 syllable or less the ins and outs of setting up suspension? Like what the differences are between the inner and outer holes on the shock mounts? How thicker oil will affect steering/traction? That kind of thing.
Basically an idiots guide for a............ beginner

[werner1619]

Hi,

Some good info here: http://users.pandora.be/elvo/
Hope you enjoy reading...
Take it slow, make sure you understand what is explained in each section before moving on to the next section...

W.

[wayneski]

thank you sir. Slow is definitely my default setting!