12 hour endur ????

[RobW]

Ok, I think a one make/hand-out car race is probably a bit ambitious for our first enduro race. Cost is going to put a lot people off and it going to cause a lot more rules issues.

Probably more appropriate for national events.

Really fancy entering one of the 24 races one day though.....anyone else?

Rob

[racingben]

was very tempted by the Ardent 24hr this weekend. Only problem was that I'm working at brands hatch today - saturday so couldn't make it.

One that doesn't clash with a Caterham / Ginetta race weekend would be good!

[racingben]

floodlights for TORCH

[jim76]

Originally Posted by racingben

floodlights for TORCH

nah, strap some LED's to the car for that real 24hr feeling!!

[jim76]

Hi Guys
Any update on if this is going ahead? Final dates, team numbers etc?

[SteveB]

Originally Posted by jim76

Hi Guys
Any update on if this is going ahead? Final dates, team numbers etc?

Hi,

We have a commitee meeting Friday and will confirm Saturday?

Key points:

1. Team Members per team 6 - 8
2. £10 entry fee all individual? tbc at this stage
3. 6 hours racing 9 - 10am start
4. Mixed 2 and 4wd allowed
5. Mixed teams of ability is required
6. Entry form to be produced after Friday meeting.
7. One PT number per team
8. All other details will follow confirmation of meeting.
9. Prizes or trophies?

If we can a some comments from people to confirm the interest and if any sponsorship for meeting? Raffle etc? Simon?


Thanks steve

[Dudders]

Seems good but perhaps Mikey could go through the entrants lap times and 'pick' teams that are equal to make it fair?. Otherwise it would only need 2 or 3 top boys in a team of six to walk it.

[The Chef]

Well up for this let us know.

[dibble34]

I am up for this, what about some sort of team entry fee that included a cheap car, eg mad monkey. RC lazy would make a killing on spares and no one would need to wreck there own car. Would still need electrics, but would make the field even. One thing i would add is i would want to choose who i race with not be put in a team. Can't imagine that is a big issue as not really one of the quick boys

[The Chef]

Originally Posted by dibble34

I am up for this, what about some sort of team entry fee that included a cheap car, eg mad monkey. RC lazy would make a killing on spares and no one would need to wreck there own car. Would still need electrics, but would make the field even.

Top Idea. If you were to start earlier one could build the cars also.

[dibble34]

Originally Posted by The Chef

Top Idea. If you were to start earlier one could build the cars also.

Yeah, think they are only £65 quid each or something and that's without any discount. Team of 6 paying what 15 - 20 each and the club still makes some money into the deal. Could raffle the cars off at the end of the day as well?

[The Chef]

Originally Posted by dibble34

Yeah, think they are only £65 quid each or something and that's without any discount. Team of 6 paying what 15 - 20 each and the club still makes some money into the deal. Could raffle the cars off at the end of the day as well?

Might be worth putting a bearing kit in there also

[wylie]

Likiing the idea of this
I would like to enter as a team not picked for a team.
Think the idea of Dibble's is great buy Mad Monkey's limit the amount of upgrades ie; just bearings and perhaps diffs just for durability everything else stock.
Pick your own ESC & motor, maybe have a motor limit 10.5turn max so as to minimise damage
One make tyres? not sure!!!
Teams of five.
Must always have a marshal on track assigned to a set position drawn from a hat to avoid any arguments, If missing from your marshalling point a ten lap penalty will be deducted (if possible with BBK)
Raffle the cars at the end of the day is good or retain them for newbies to use at slighty higher cost (with deposit) not sure if this would be practical, raffle is better. cars could be collected one week prior to the event to allow build time and all team members to inspect cars and setup.
I think this could be a good event for the club and members.
Make sure event is on my day off so i can attend.

[jim76]

only probelm with a one car set up is who out of the 5-6 team members gets to donate the electrics and get them fried for 6 hours?! If you want to club together for electrics as well it makes it more of an expensive day. If all 6 team members run their own cars then each car track time is only 1 hour, so no more than a normal national/regional.
As much as i like the even car idea, i think it will put a lot more people of on cost grounds.

Steve - one question on the PT thing. Are you talking proper PT, or club hand out? I was just thinking if you have 20 club handouts that is 2 per team, so one in the car and one in the next car waiting in the chageover zone?
If you use PT, how do you propose to swap it between cars at change over? Not sure people will be happy plugging/unplugging the PT 30+ time in a day pulling on the wires etc?
just a thought

[The Chef]

If it was £30 per head then I sure someone could sort out a cheap brushless combo's to fry. Still a cheap 12 hours racing.

[The Chef]

Originally Posted by RobW

Ok, I think a one make/hand-out car race is probably a bit ambitious for our first enduro race. Cost is going to put a lot people off and it going to cause a lot more rules issues.

Probably more appropriate for national events.

Really fancy entering one of the 24 races one day though.....anyone else?

Rob

I'm going to try and organize a charity one.

[jim76]

Originally Posted by The Chef

If it was £30 per head then I sure someone could sort out a cheap brushless combo's to fry. Still a cheap 12 hours racing.

i think £30 per head would put a fair few people off compared to £10 per head. Especially with high fuel costs to get there and tyres for the day etc.
And if the cheap combo you have blows in the first hour, again who donates their own kit?

Then you also have the issue of sticks vs wheel. If you have a team with half and half you can rule out the one car set up. Or you settle for driving in a team with out your friends, which again will put people off.

[RobW]

Originally Posted by jim76

only probelm with a one car set up is who out of the 5-6 team members gets to donate the electrics and get them fried for 6 hours?! If you want to club together for electrics as well it makes it more of an expensive day. If all 6 team members run their own cars then each car track time is only 1 hour, so no more than a normal national/regional.
As much as i like the even car idea, i think it will put a lot more people of on cost grounds.

Steve - one question on the PT thing. Are you talking proper PT, or club hand out? I was just thinking if you have 20 club handouts that is 2 per team, so one in the car and one in the next car waiting in the chageover zone?
If you use PT, how do you propose to swap it between cars at change over? Not sure people will be happy plugging/unplugging the PT 30+ time in a day pulling on the wires etc?
just a thought

I think Jim lays out the reasons here why for a first stab at a team event I am expecting the decision to be to go down the route of each using own our cars. We could probably get a meeting running along these lines in Oct before it gets too cold.

Not sure about the transponder issue - even if we could get hold of enough handout transponders, do they last 6 hours without a charge? Would not personally want to be yanking a personal transponder in and out of my receiver in a hurry several times.

Rob

[Chris-S]

Originally Posted by RobW

I think Jim lays out the reasons here why for a first stab at a team event I am expecting the decision to be to go down the route of each using own our cars. We could probably get a meeting running along these lines in Oct before it gets too cold.

Not sure about the transponder issue - even if we could get hold of enough handout transponders, do they last 6 hours without a charge? Would not personally want to be yanking a personal transponder in and out of my receiver in a hurry several times.

Rob

Each team nominates one transponder, this has to be swapped in the pit stop. Use a servo extension lead to avoid unplugging from the reciever)

[jim76]

Even with a servo lead you are still pulling on the transponder wire each time. Maybe if the club had 20 hand outs, you can have one in the car (to be swapped over in pit stop) and one on the charge rack? I don't own a PT, so it doesn't bother me. But if I'd spent 60 quid + on one I'm not sure i'd want it yanked around all day?