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Old 03-03-2011
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Gixxer you say you tried to contact me ???
Not sure where your coming from mate and as for buying in and selling on all items have a licence or permission from supplier Ie Asscociated/Caterham/mtroniks etc
get over it call me and we can sort this shit out
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well just read all the way thru this forum on this and was shocked at how it turned out
i totally sympathise with chris and understand the difficulties he had with contacting mr gixxer and think mr gixxer should have been in touch with mardave before selling on any of his products as a ''aftermarket'' upgrade
i like the parts your making gixxer but think the way youve conducted this and dealt with the response too solve it i dont think id be interested in associating myself and my hobby with you
just my thoughts and feel that this should all stop now and let gixxer and chris sort it all out you never no both might come too a happy conclusion in the end
out of interest tho xray had a similar issue a few years back and wiped out the company making them and impounded all the machinery and equipment and it was a big engineering shop that it did it too and it all started from a guy making one bit for his car that someone else liked so made a few and sold on the bay............
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CNC-Alloy-rear...item1c19d30fe2

has anyone contacted this chap then????????
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I have never seen such a wrath of legal tripe in my life. You people, especially Mardave, should be ashamed.
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Having recently bought a Mardave and looking forward to getting into racing with you guys... have read this thread with mixed feelings.

Firstly the parts being offered originally look of good design and manufacture, if they fix weaknesses in original design and therefore help the cars handle or improve durability then surely us as racers benefit.

Obviously Mardave lose sales on spares as there will be less parts failure or fatigue due to either weaknesses or driver error (i would have thought 99% to blame!)

IMHO fitting stronger arms will only spread damage to other components or track markings in impacts, Chris will be selling other spares instead (or straightening chassis plates!) the parts also may have awful effects on handling which makes them useless in racing applications.

Since Mardave racing has rules on standard OEM parts for events, it will only be racers that use them at other events that can benefit from upgrades, therefore a very small market and gixxer will not be making huge profits.

It makes business sense for gixxer to contact Mardave, get permission to either sell under licence or manufacture for Mardave, that way we as racers can all benefit by being able to use the parts at events, the parts go to mass market meaning more sales and this stupidity can stop.

Sorry Chris but i don't think this has been handled in a total professional manner, Oople should have been contacted, this thread should have been closed/deleted and legal business dealt with outside of public view, it doesn't look good on your business part having to threaten racers/forum members etc with legal action, we are all potential customers at the end of the day.

These parts could benefit kids/newbies/amateurs to continue with the class if it means them finishing races rather than broken cars littering the tracks.

Come on guys, put handbags down and sort it out so we can all benefit.
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I have never seen such a wrath of legal tripe in my life. You people, especially Mardave, should be ashamed.
Agreed, i'm certainly reconsidering having a go at racing these for fun if i'm going to get sued for damages everytime i clip a back marker
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Sorry to keep harping on but i have tried to contact all parties, only replt i had was from Jimmy he saw no reason to delete thread. As for my rights i have these and can't see where iam wrong only for airing it on this forum
Never again and sorry if i have offended our loyal customer base.
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From Mardave UK to me:

Hi Jimmy
Great forum shit admin
this should have been deleted days ago.
Please remove our logo from your site


The logo will be removed by request, I'll of course keep the Mardave section for people like me who love Mardaves!

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oo er.
personally, for me the point of a mardave is cheap fun... why would you want to pay extra for something that looks pretty under shell that gets tatty lol

I used to run a supported website for my local football club, and we ran into issues with copyright on pictures and things. And then worse when we produced merchandise. Even though it didnt carry the club crest, it still had the team name, which was enough for them to claim we were taking business away from them.

This seems vaguely similar. Contact should have been made in an attempt to see if both parties could work together.

Either way, i still love my Dave, and will be running it for a very long time - just with plastic parts lol
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Having recently bought a Mardave and looking forward to getting into racing with you guys... have read this thread with mixed feelings.

Firstly the parts being offered originally look of good design and manufacture, if they fix weaknesses in original design and therefore help the cars handle or improve durability then surely us as racers benefit.

Obviously Mardave lose sales on spares as there will be less parts failure or fatigue due to either weaknesses or driver error (i would have thought 99% to blame!)

IMHO fitting stronger arms will only spread damage to other components or track markings in impacts, Chris will be selling other spares instead (or straightening chassis plates!) the parts also may have awful effects on handling which makes them useless in racing applications.

Since Mardave racing has rules on standard OEM parts for events, it will only be racers that use them at other events that can benefit from upgrades, therefore a very small market and gixxer will not be making huge profits.

It makes business sense for gixxer to contact Mardave, get permission to either sell under licence or manufacture for Mardave, that way we as racers can all benefit by being able to use the parts at events, the parts go to mass market meaning more sales and this stupidity can stop.

Sorry Chris but i don't think this has been handled in a total professional manner, Oople should have been contacted, this thread should have been closed/deleted and legal business dealt with outside of public view, it doesn't look good on your business part having to threaten racers/forum members etc with legal action, we are all potential customers at the end of the day.

These parts could benefit kids/newbies/amateurs to continue with the class if it means them finishing races rather than broken cars littering the tracks.

Come on guys, put handbags down and sort it out so we can all benefit.
Well said fella, agree on all points especially the " but i don't think this has been handled in a total professional manner "

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Sorry to keep harping on but i have tried to contact all parties, only replt i had was from Jimmy he saw no reason to delete thread. As for my rights i have these and can't see where iam wrong only for airing it on this forum
Never again and sorry if i have offended our loyal customer base.
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Have had a number of your kit's over the year's, no more Keep carrying on the way you have been and you will probably lose a lot more custom.

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From Mardave UK to me:

Hi Jimmy
Great forum shit admin
this should have been deleted days ago.
Please remove our logo from your site


The logo will be removed by request, I'll of course keep the Mardave section for people like me who love Mardaves!

Jimmy (last ever Mardave champion at Batley)
Nice one jimmy, open and honest forum as usual chris stop being a child and put your toy's back in there box's
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What if some one copied stuff where you work and sold them and put you out of work you possable would not like that would you
That happens all the time though Gazza - it's called "China"!

Sorry... Probably not helping...
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Haha this sounds like a school playground as miller posted Wat about all the other custom bits on eBay mr mardave or is it rule for one and not the other?
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What I don't understand is there are hop-up/alternative parts made for so many different cars and their manufacturers don't seem to have issue with it so why does Mardave? Especially as they can't be used in official events so why does it matter.
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What I don't understand is there are hop-up/alternative parts made for so many different cars and their manufacturers don't seem to have issue with it so why does Mardave? Especially as they can't be used in official events so why does it matter.
Spot on mate, he's missing out on a lot of profit !!!! Isn't it about £1.50 for a pair of wishbones ?
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gazza? Get a life!
Gixxer get a Lawyer
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I can't really believe this has happened at all, maybe initially the whole intention was to make them for mates, but there is an interest that maybe, instead of Mardave complaining, put into production themselves, just seems such a petty argument to me, on both sides.
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From Mardave UK to me:

Hi Jimmy
Great forum shit admin
this should have been deleted days ago.
Please remove our logo from your site


The logo will be removed by request, I'll of course keep the Mardave section for people like me who love Mardaves!

Jimmy (last ever Mardave champion at Batley)

hahahahahaha good way to portray (sp for you spelling freaks) your buisness, hardly professional.
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This is all getting a bit petty now,i left this sport 15 years ago because i got fed up with the petty comments and childish behaviour and people being too far up their own as*es!!

So what!,gixxer has made some bits in ally,big deal!

Its not as if they can be used for the BRCA sanctioned meetings (and the way this thread is going they never will),where we race we run unlimited V12's (run what you want)and some of our drivers were having problems with the diff adaptor melting and snapping front arms.

This is meant to be a fun hobby but it is starting to get too political like it did years ago

Lets just get on with racing,life is too short,we only come this way once!
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I did wonder where the mardave logo went - pretty unfortunate how it's all panned out in the end on this particular thread tho
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