Schumacher CAT SX3 1/10th Competition 4WD

[mk2kompressor]

Seen it go round the track a few weeks ago, it looked much more planted
You can really see the difference the mid motor makes, throttle control over all bumps and jumps seemed effortless.

Good move mr Shumacher

[mikeyscott]

Originally Posted by mk2kompressor

Seen it go round the track a few weeks ago, it looked much more planted
You can really see the difference the mid motor makes, throttle control over all bumps and jumps seemed effortless.

Good move mr Shumacher

Nice, what track was that?

[stegger]

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Nice, what track was that?

It would have been MOTO-ARENA looking at his sig fella

[ray carey]

great car, have ordered mine.

[mikeyscott]

Originally Posted by stegger

It would have been MOTO-ARENA looking at his sig fella

Bit of an assumption

[stegger]

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Bit of an assumption

Yeh but it's a closed and a controlled environment, great for testing

[Cockerill]

OK, I'll try get some of the questions answered....

Originally Posted by racingdwarf

So is this car a vast improvment, a must have!?? or is it a diffrent style than the sx2, as altho it looks diffrent, there is no cutting edge reinvent the wheel stuff here, as has been said...looks like an xx4/BJ4 worlds.

If schumacher are saying the sx2 is not as good as this car, why bother with the sx2, could have saved us a few quid and brought this out before, saddle packs have be arround some time.

i ask Tom this as he is one of the most honest team drivers I have met

No car, no matter what any one says, will instantly be .5sec a lap faster, unless it is radically different in more than one way, or the previous car wasn't a top of line kit. If it does I expect to see a Schumacher 1-5 at every national, the Euro's & World's! If that happens I'll eat my words. As it's pointed out, the car isn't radically different to everything else.

What I will say is that the new car is more balanced, making it easier to drive faster. Will it make me faster? Slightly, as I feel I can push it more and have more confidence, but I doubt it will put me .5 a lap in front of Lee/Ellis/Bradders/Anyone Else.

Will it make you/the majority of racers faster? Probably, as you will find it easier to drive, making less mistakes in a race. Easier to drive generally means quicker for the majority of drivers. The SX2 is still a quick car, there's no doubting that, especially on UK tracks, but I feel the SX3 will help the majority.

Originally Posted by gazhillAE

So trishs rear gearbox housing wont fit the sx3 will it............

No, but I'm 90% sure that the SX3 has an option for High or Low pin

Originally Posted by telboy

I can see why they've kept the front the same, but if they were designing a new car, why not go with a twin belt layout rather than 3? odd.

BUT, personally I think a conversion would be a BIG seller. All the people that have just bought CAT SX2's for the new season don't now want to be going out and buying another new car. Plus all those on budgets who have bought second hand CAT's. It will appeal to lots of people if they produced a conversion kit for around £150ish.

As someone has already said, 3 belts keeps the motor in the middle. Conversion kit, I've no idea, but there's more to it than most realise, so I wouldn't expect it to be economical.

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

Has it raced anywhere yet and when's it's first meeting in the hands of the team? EPR this weekend?

It's not been raced, but there has been plenty of testing. Off the top of my head: RHR, Kiddy, EPR, Stotfold & Moto Areana. The cars won't be back from the Toy Fair until next week, so maybe next weekend for a debut, or the weekend after. Personally I'll be running mine at Worksop on the 20th

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

What's the max LIPO height in the car as well as I'm due to get some new LIPOs for my SV and was going to get saddles - prob Nosram. Have to have locating humps

I'm pretty sure it will take the maximum allowable Lipo size!! And you can already see from the pictures that the chassis has lipo-locating holes.

Anything I've missed let me know, and I'll try to answer any more questions.

[Nige]

Originally Posted by Cockerill

Anything I've missed let me know, and I'll try to answer any more questions.

Just wondered does the SX3 make the SX2 obsolete, or do you expect some tracks to still favour the SX2? If so what type of tracks???

[Mossy]

Just to build on what Tom said, Im pretty sure we as a team will be debuting the car at Worksop on the 20th.

The car does have pin high on the rear, both front and back so yes you have the option to change as you wish.

In terms of the SX2 being obsolete, that I cant answer. The SX2 is a very quick and nimble car, but like Tom says in testing I personally have found the car more predictable and consistently quick. Time will tell I guess.

Si

[mikeyscott]

Originally Posted by Mossy

Just to build on what Tom said, Im pretty sure we as a team will be debuting the car at Worksop on the 20th.

The car does have pin high on the rear, both front and back so yes you have the option to change as you wish.

In terms of the SX2 being obsolete, that I cant answer. The SX2 is a very quick and nimble car, but like Tom says in testing I personally have found the car more predictable and consistently quick. Time will tell I guess.

Si

What parts are common across the two platforms - shock towers, shocks, wishbones, hubs, diffs, driveshafts, shock mounts?

I assume Spring 2011 means just before the first national meeting

[Cockerill]

Originally Posted by Nige

Just wondered does the SX3 make the SX2 obsolete, or do you expect some tracks to still favour the SX2? If so what type of tracks???

I can't imagine that I'd change between cars, I'd prefer to just stick with one, which will be the SX3 because I find it easier to drive.

Originally Posted by mikeyscott

What parts are common across the two platforms - shock towers, shocks, wishbones, hubs, diffs, driveshafts, shock mounts?

I assume Spring 2011 means just before the first national meeting

Spring means Spring, so March, April or May. I'm sure they'd like it out as early as possible, but that depends on suppliers meeting dates.

Parts wise, front end is identical. Rear corners are the same, gearbox tops, shock tower, shocks, diff. Centre wise the, gears, pulleys, spur, slipper pads I imagine and maybe a few other bits.

[moth898]

Originally Posted by Cockerill

I can't imagine that I'd change between cars, I'd prefer to just stick with one, which will be the SX3 because I find it easier to drive.



Spring means Spring, so March, April or May. I'm sure they'd like it out as early as possible, but that depends on suppliers meeting dates.

Parts wise, front end is identical. Rear corners are the same, gearbox tops, shock tower, shocks, diff. Centre wise the, gears, pulleys, spur, slipper pads I imagine and maybe a few other bits.

From what you are saying Tom, about 75% of the parts are the same, is that correct? If so, it's acceptable, to have to flush all my spare parts would be a bad thing.

[racingdwarf]

Hope they hold on to it until it's right, unlike the cougar.

[neiloliver]

This does look very nice

Does anyone know if the new wing mounts fit directly onto the Cougar?

[johnboy]

It would be interesting to know what the final specs are because for the price of the car it would be nice to know that we would'nt have to spend much in the way of extra's for the car.
I like Schumacher cars but both the cat sx and cougar that ive raced required me to buy quite a few upgrades which made the cars pricey. I'm not being negative towards the new car i think it looks ace but i do hope it is a pro kit ie ti turnbuckles the alloy steering bellcranks ( ive heard the plastic ones break very easy) and all the other parts that make the car strong .
If you compare the price with the b44.1 it's very similar price and as far as i'm aware the b44.1 has all the right parts in the box.

[stegger]

Originally Posted by neiloliver

This does look very nice

Does anyone know if the new wing mounts fit directly onto the Cougar?

Yes they will mate. U3298 which are the wing mounts for the SXII and the cougar SV are the same and as cockers said earlier the SXII and SX3 rear shock mount is the same, so the new wing mounts will fit.

[mw02veg]

double post

[mw02veg]

Originally Posted by Cockerill

OK, I'll try get some of the questions answered....



No car, no matter what any one says, will instantly be .5sec a lap faster, unless it is radically different in more than one way, or the previous car wasn't a top of line kit. If it does I expect to see a Schumacher 1-5 at every national, the Euro's & World's! If that happens I'll eat my words. As it's pointed out, the car isn't radically different to everything else.

What I will say is that the new car is more balanced, making it easier to drive faster. Will it make me faster? Slightly, as I feel I can push it more and have more confidence, but I doubt it will put me .5 a lap in front of Lee/Ellis/Bradders/Anyone Else.




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whoa tom easy now. im just pulling from my personal experience with the car. if u wanna look for yourself phil has the report in an email. personaly i do believe a car make a big difference and for that day it definatly did. so can the new car make you faster i think so

[MattW]

Do I need to come back and ref between you pair

[Rebelrc]

EDIT
Sorry me just being an idiot again!