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Thx for the explanation Jonathan, very interesting!

I still find the 3 belt solution on the XX4 great though. But for sure I agree that the belts should have been both wider and stronger. And then we are talking custom parts again... If only Losi focused on 1:10 OR racing again and not so much new toys...

I've done a lot of 1:8 track racing, and it's really strange how the manufacturers there as well never seem to understand that the power and grip has increased a lot during the last decade... but still we have those way too narrow fronts belts that break all the time...

Nowadays, especially for 1:10 OR, both runtime and power is in super excess. So a little resistance shouldn't hurt...

A thought: Would it be possible to downscale the Losi Eight with it's "off center" center shafts? Plus bevelled spurs & pinions? (motor in the centre, sideways)
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Thx for the explanation Jonathan, very interesting!

I still find the 3 belt solution on the XX4 great though. But for sure I agree that the belts should have been both wider and stronger. And then we are talking custom parts again... If only Losi focused on 1:10 OR racing again and not so much new toys...

I've done a lot of 1:8 track racing, and it's really strange how the manufacturers there as well never seem to understand that the power and grip has increased a lot during the last decade... but still we have those way too narrow fronts belts that break all the time...

Nowadays, especially for 1:10 OR, both runtime and power is in super excess. So a little resistance shouldn't hurt...

A thought: Would it be possible to downscale the Losi Eight with it's "off center" center shafts? Plus bevelled spurs & pinions? (motor in the centre, sideways)
The 4X proto i made a while back was basically a modern xx4 5mm and 6mm belts and same layout as the xx4 same it would cost so much for customers to build.

If i get chance at the weekend i will take a shot of the three 4wd protos i have made in the last year or so side by side so you can compare the layouts. Two are belt drive one is shaft.
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That would be great J!

Make sure to use a std. lens, not fisheye!
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Jonathan . What ever happend to this one ???





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That's the one I want!

I heard "serious" rumours this weekend that Losi is working on an update (new cars) in their 1:10 OR range... anyone know anything more specific?

Now X-Factory is doing the same...

So it defo looks like the XX4 never will die!
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Correct, what is the idea behind that?

I see you have outer hinge pin holes on the wishbones. Will it then be within the max. width regulations? I guess you'd need longer drive shafts also?
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No comments?

Will the new X-Factory car still be narrow as well?

Btw isn't the XX4 shorter than most cars also?
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Btw isn't the XX4 shorter than most cars also?

Yes.

Jonathan, did you not need to do any form of bracing to stop chassis flex and belt tension changing?
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Te belts were super thick and it had the tub on. It didn't have much flex in it at all and the belts didnt skip a beat at coventry astro track
(well, until someone broke it!!) BELSTEN!! ahaha
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It looks like a tub Dan, so I doubt it....
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Jonathan, did you not need to do any form of bracing to stop chassis flex and belt tension changing?
No it was flex free
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Unfortunatly, it would be to expensive to produce as a kit, and also with using a Cat Sx front end and a XX4 rear end you really need two cars for the conversion. Shame really as it went very well.

It now leaves under my table with the other proto-types
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if under your table is getting full mate, i have lots of room
It was a very quick and superb handling beast
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Te belts were super thick and it had the tub on. It didn't have much flex in it at all and the belts didnt skip a beat at coventry astro track
(well, until someone broke it!!) BELSTEN!! ahaha



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i put in the same time as my old xx4 firt time on the track using jc's kit and his setup. It was very impressive.
You needing a hand with car storage then jon???
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i put in the same time as my old xx4 firt time on the track using jc's kit and his setup. It was very impressive.
You needing a hand with car storage then jon???
There only stacked 3 high at the moment so still got some space lol.
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