X11 pictures..............

[XTREME RC]

THE PRICE GOING OUT TO COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE E.U WILL BE MINUS THE V.A.T, IF THAT HELPS?

[Nick Goodall]

Originally Posted by gramey

I just don't see anything thats going to make it handle any better on a bumpy track than the current car. Bearing in mind there are no electrics in the car in the photo's there appears to be only a very, very short shock stroke. There are turnbuckles to adjust the camber which is nice but there does not appear to be much room for adjustment, still don't see any coloured springs either.
Looks cool but I'm still to be convinced.

Someone technical needs to come on here and help the Pred out - as i've seen this sort of comment on a few sites now.

The suspension on the predator is soooo much more advanced then the other buggy's you'll see, it's fully progressive so what looks like a short stroke actually transforms into a completely different stroke through the wishbone. The design is very similar to the Pro-Link set-up they developed in Motorcross in the 80's where they had a tiny rear shock and a complicated swing arm that changed the way all motorcross bikes worked in that era.

I'm sure someone with a better technical understanding can explain it, but it's far more advanced then anyone seems to realise or give it credit for

[MattW]

Nick is absolutely right, it is a suspension system that very few people properly understand - and i don't considder myself to be in that group. I think i have a fair idea - but not a full understanding by a long shot!!!

One thing that i did learn, is that the first thing you should do - is forget everything that you think you've learned from other cars over the years. In the 12 or so months i've had my pred, there are multiple ocasions that i've made a change and it's given totally the oposite effect that i was expecting.

I'm not running my X10 at the minute, although i do plan to go back to it during the year when i get more time.

[big_boss]

Gramey Has an xrs (two if memory serves), so he should know about the suspension on the pred.... but it does take a bit of graft to get it to work on bumpy tracks (any car for that matter). It just takes a bit of getting used to driving it at "maximum attack" all of the time, once you get your head around that all is good.

[dallasv8]

is it me or has the ttech website gone

[andreasH]

Same here.
I hope they are working on the site to notify the realease of the X11 !

[jimmy]

I don't believe TTech exists any longer - so I would think a new site is on the way.

[franki]

its working for me

http://www.ttechracing.com/

[andreasH]

Yes works again. And there is nothing new


edit:
ohhh there is something new, the X11 is in the shop

KX11 - PREDATOR X11 4WD Off-Road - In Stock 30/06/2007 £340.00
http://www.ttechamerica.com/ttech/pr...1fd36f51defd1c

[franki]

Please note the price is plus vat

[franki]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I don't believe TTech exists any longer - so I would think a new site is on the way.

I belive it does it just has a diffrent owner so i belive it still uses the TTech branding a bit like Aston Martin being sold (see how i compared the two there!!!)

[PaulRotheram]

i actually think it isnt under the ttech name anymore.. and under the name of 'extreme' or there about.

[franki]

Originally Posted by PaulRotheram

i actually think it isnt under the ttech name anymore.. and under the name of 'extreme' or there about.

I didnt know that i thought it had stayed the same oh well you live and learn

[PaulRotheram]

aye, yardy was talking about it at kiddy.. then broke his new extreme sweatshirt out on sunday.

[rado-steve]

Looks Very Nice! Everyone knows Blue Is Better....So it gets my Vote!

But....................£400!!!! Are they drunk! Sorry But you can get an 1/8th Scale Buggy for That! In Fact My 1st Car cost less thant that!

Stupid price!
























I'd still have one though

[Brodie]

$612!!!!!!

I know i realy want one but damn!!!! I could get a BJ4WE for $475. I guess i could bitch about it, but then i compare what you lot(uk) are paying for rc stuff, holy sheep $hit!!! I used to live in the UK but i've forgoten what the cost of rc racing is out there. But out of all the other 4wd's out there i want this one more than any of them.

Also does anyone know who to contact to get them in to the local hobby shops? Seeing as i now i work in one, i know of a few "well off" people that race & would love this car.

[franki]

Originally Posted by Brodie

$612!!!!!!

I know i realy want one but damn!!!! I could get a BJ4WE for $475. I guess i could bitch about it, but then i compare what you lot(uk) are paying for rc stuff, holy sheep $hit!!! I used to live in the UK but i've forgoten what the cost of rc racing is out there. But out of all the other 4wd's out there i want this one more than any of them.

Also does anyone know who to contact to get them in to the local hobby shops? Seeing as i now i work in one, i know of a few "well off" people that race & would love this car.

There you go ask for Lewis

http://www.xtreme-rc.biz/

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by franki

There you go ask for Lewis

http://www.xtreme-rc.biz/

Thanks, but is there a distributor i can contact in the USA?

[jimmy]

I think that something they are looking into

[MK999]

A bellcrank system starts off on it's stroke as needing a larger amount of movement to move the shock a smaller amount, in the same way a lever does, and as such a smaller force can move the shock more easily, this is for the smaller bumps on a track, it absorbs them without influencing the chassis movement too much and keeps the wheels on the floor as much as possible, also acting as a 'softer' set up for grip. As it continues through the stroke the angles it works at now mean a larger movement at the wishbone means a larger movement at the damper, so if you land off a jump it doesn't just slap the chassis on the floor, also acting as a slightly harder setup for the faster corners to reduce roll and other undesired effects.

Progressive damping is something of a black art though from what I've read, on one track your car is the fastest thing out there, on another it's being lapped by the guy 1 place in front.

This also means you can get away with far less movement while retaining enough damping to survive the jumps and a soft enough setup for the smaller bumps for grip. However if you try and hit a fast bumpy corner with the progressive rate too hard at that point it ends in tears.