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13-12-2009
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The overall impression that I'm getting from a minority of some on this forum is that if you do not run an AMB system then your club is not worth visiting
 .It's about choice. I'm happy to welcome anyone to our club, but they have to play by our rules. If they are not happy, fine. Go and find another club that will. Trust me, I'm getting emails from a lot of people keen to know when our off-road track is up and running and they know we'll be running the I-Laps system. We as a club have no worries looking forward...  I'm just a little sick of the negative comments being made by a small number of people about I-Laps and I bet they have never raced at a club that use them... Here's to a fantastic 2010 for our club and our members. 
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#62
13-12-2009
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I'm not saying that the iLaps system is bad - far from it. I think you need to stop taking it so personally. But for certain circumstances, the AMB is better (off-road, with no luxury of astro). Also, at the moment we take for granted that we can go to a club and use our PT, and not have to worry about handouts.
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13-12-2009
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My original post on your forum asked what class would I be racing in if I came to your club with my box standard micro 1/18th scale buggy, used by 90 per cent of the country at CLUB level. You deleted that post and the reason for deleting it says "this guy has nothing sensible to say". I pointed out that almost everyone in the country uses the LRP Shark and that it wouldn't fall inside your £150 all-in rule. You replied to my PM stating that perhaps I shouldn't waste my petrol coming to race at your club with my "expensive" kit. My kit isn't "expensive" it's the same as 90 per cent of rest of the club level drivers that have a micro  I like to travel to other clubs and race, especially when I found out that you race on slippy flooring, and have done so for years and not once has any club I have been to ever asked me to leave because my kit is too expensive  The I-laps system is irrelevent, if I liked racing at your club I would carry on racing there regardless of the lap counting system being used, the thing I can't understand the most is the fact that you don't want anyone who races outside of the area to visit your club  When you say "the area or surrounding area" how far afield are we talking? I race off-road 1/10th the most and the nearest outdoor track is Silverstone, the next nearest is an hours drive away. Silverstone currently run 2 or 3 meetings per year so obviously I have to travel to race regularly. When your off-road track is up and running will you only be catering for "local" drivers, or can anyone come and race?
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wow what a warm welcoming attitude  wishing all you guys at the Royston Vasey RC club every success with your local championship for local drivers! 
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As and when our outdoor track planning permission goes through we will have a stunning venue for regular meetings throughout the year every 2 weeks (weather permitting) and we shall be running 1:10th scale buggies and trucks on that track and also entertaining the little cars again with 1:18 scale buggies and trucks, while still racing every Friday indoors. As a club we decided not to follow the BRCA rules to the letter and therefore are not so strict which allows those who've never raced before to feel very welcome indeed. Our web site has all the details. Currently there are no rules for the smaller cars but the club's committee will be discussing this next year as we see how this new class for the club progresses... Best news of all is that the club has finally taken delivery of the I-Laps lap counting system which everyone at the club has been waiting several months for now since we first discussed it. Don't worry if you do not own the Personal Transponder for the I-Laps system, the club has purchased some extras which we will be renting out at each meeting. The goal of the club has always been to encourage competitive driving which we certainly have each week, but more importantly to foster an environment that encourages new fans of racing RC to come along and feel welcomed and not fearful of racing with seasoned drivers. This is one area which the club excels in and everyone who comes along to race for the first time keep coming back for more. We've welcomed dozens of potential young and old drivers new to the world of RC racing over the past few months and I'm sure that once Santa has dropped off what they were hoping to get that we shall be welcoming more new faces to the club in 2010. Don't get me wrong, the BRCA is a good yard stick, but that does not mean that local clubs should be prevented from doing things differently, afterall as I've always tried to put across we offer choice - something different... Make your choice That's the last on this matter from me 
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This system by robitronic seems to have the same basic priciple as the iLaps system.
http://www.robitronic.com/lap-counter-en.html Are any clubs using this system? 219 Euro's for the basic system - decoder, bridge sensors and 3 PT's 29 Euro's per additional PT. All plus postage/delivery. Seems very similar to the i laps system, and looks quite well packaged. Last edited by Dazzler; 13-12-2009 at 09:07 PM. Reason: additional info added.
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What happens when they get better? ........... are they banned
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Hi to all
This is my very first oople post so apologies to all if its not very well constructed !! Having been involved with racing model cars since the late 80's i feel i have a fair bit of experience to fall back on ! I have followed this thread from the start and would like to give my opinion .When i started racing we had manual lap counting with clickers and bits of paper we moved through a sinclair spektrum based system through Amb 20 and now finally AMBRc . We are now suffering with failure of handout transponders batteries are failing more frequently than we would like, a lot of our clubmembers have PT transponders but they are very expensive !! I would welcome a competitive rival system . To Scott well done for trying a new system best of luck and i think your last post was your best effort yet well constructed . A word of friendly advice welcome all drivers from all groups all clubs go through lean times at somepoint ours has . currently 50 drivers is average for a friday night club meeting ,look after the youngsters with little money the most they will be the future of your club. I will follow the I laps system we may well be looking for an alternative ourselves Dave Fiddling (Louth Radio Control Car Club)
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14-12-2009
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Everyone seems to enjoy moaning a whole lot just because the reality is slightly different from the ideal.
I'm a "non local" driver who races regularly at the beds club. I'm sure that Scott and the Beds club would love to use AMB/Mylaps for their club if it was an affordable system given the amount of money the club have available. This of course is the ideal but given that they didn't have the buddget for it, they seeked a viable alternative and the solution they reached was ilaps. As a racer, I already owned an AMB PT. I believe I was 1 of about 3 or 4 regular racers who owned one. Most of the members at beds club are beginners who don't race at other clubs or at higher levels. Given the above, I think the decision to go with ilaps and ask the 3 or 4 AMB owners to buy a new ilaps PT at £35 makes a lot more sense than asking almost 20 members buy a mylaps PT for almost twice as much and/or have the club shell out for much more expensive decoders/handouts etc. On a different note, if the ilaps relys on line of sight but can work through paint on a body shell, whats to stop it from working a little bit mud/dirt on it? AMB pt's are not supposed to be mounted vertically or on top of carbon etc. but they still work despite that. I think although it's unlikely to be better than AMB/Mylaps (there I said it), I think that people are underestimating the capabilities of th eilaps system. Once the club has their system sorted, I'll let you know how I get on with my ilaps PT compared to my AMB.
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14-12-2009
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We at the momment run the AMB 20 system at our club and there is know way we could afford the rc system i think its well over priced for what it is. So a bit more competition would do know harm at all and may bring the price down on all lap counting systems. i will keep my eye on this system to see how it goes all the best with your club.
Darran (Leverton Raceway)
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14-12-2009
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Scott,
Living not a trillion miles away from your venue I have kept my eye on these posts and had a look around your website. Your facility looks great, loving the polished flooring! But I am also abit confused by the clubs stance on micro budget.  (Taken from the Beds club gallery) An ST, running pro shocks, an MRT ESC and with flipped rear arms (none standard) is no where near £150 unless im missing a trick (in which case, ill take 5 of them!) Before I even consider taking a trip over to Beds for some pre National practise what is the stance from your club on micros racing? Just curious...
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This week that chassis was running the SC18 phat bodies blackjack short course truck shell in domino pizza colours
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So what exactly is the ruling?, are Sharks banned or is it just me?
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#77
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Smartalec then commented on how there is now standard for budget micro racing and so the class would probably not work which Scott must have seen as not contructive for what he was trying to achieve. The bottom line is that any micro should be able to run, they might just keep some of the cheaper ones seperate to have some controlled budget racing using micros as a platform. I'm sure there will be an official answer soon enough
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#78
14-12-2009
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The plan is to hopefully have two class’s for the Micro cars.
One for stock cars under £150.00 and the other an open class, for the likes of Chris car in the photo. Chris was the first person to bring a micro car down to the club, and I think most peoples thoughts were this looks like fun! And certainly brought a smile to my face when he was running it with the touring cars The club has been looking at introducing a low cost or stock class (wasn’t necessarily 1/18thoff road micro, had also looked at Tamiya minis, Carismas etc) to help bring new members and was decided that maybe it would be a good idea to combined the two. But also have the open class so we could cater for everyone else that runs the micros
Last edited by ek9russ; 14-12-2009 at 01:47 PM. Reason: spelling
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. I also replied to a post about control tyres. A suggestion was made about the Schumacher Rally Block in yellow compound and I pointed out that the best option on slippy floor would be WHITE compound. Although they appear to wear out quicker than yellow, on slippy floor only they will last for ages as even when the tread disappears the compound will keep them gripping the floor. This was again aimed at helpiing people at their club and not trying to upset anyone.As i've said earlier, I would actually like to run at the club as i've never run entirely on slippy floor with the micro and it sounds like fun.
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