Is NRX suitable for 10th racing??

[cmgreen]

Originally Posted by dayxwalker

It's not like the north east has lots of other perminant outdoor tracks ! Don't kill this one

Agree

[notlawnomis]

LMFAO!!!

This is just the sort of thread and posts I expect from some racers these days!! Fair points on track opinions, I haven't been there so I'm not in a position to comment on "Is NRX suitable for 10th racing??" For once Lee seems the most level headed on the opinions shared, thats a complement Lee, I think, lol!

I really don't know why people bother putting any effort into organising events, or even putting meetings on at all. Its the same old sh*te time and time again, complaining about this and that if a meeting isn't to the exacting standards, apparently require these days. I thought racing was meant to be for enjoyment, certainly not for organisers anymore. These people give up their free time and expense, at times sacrificing work and family commitments to put meetings on for you guys to dissect every aspect that isn’t to your liking. I’m not going into specific comments made here, but some thing’s mentioned are a complete joke and it makes you wonder what has happened to common sense! (no one comment targeted, before I here the reasons behind everyones justification for their comments, not interested!!).

I for one will never help organise a regional event (from previous experience), its just not worth putting the effort in and I'm sure many more organisers are starting to feel this way. It’s a real shame people don’t just make the most of these meetings, and dare I say it, offer to help out if something isn’t to your liking. This thread is a really good example of today’s selfish society!!

Advice for organisers = Don’t bother your arses

Go for it Guys!!

Enjoy

[Lee]

This is what i fear Simon, people like yourself who have put hours and £££ into staging an event and then it get ripped to shreds on a forum. Then the organisers think "why bother"

Maybe people should have constructive criticism on the day, along the lines of " for the 4wd event it would be really good if ..........." i'm sure this would go down a lot better and not make the organisers feel like it was a waste of time.

I would also like to point out that the better driver still won the event, the same people still broke cars like they always do, they just used more glue yesterday In out regional series there are probably 20 people who can make the A on any one day. We still had those people in the A and B. Personally i had expected Chris and Greg to be very fast round there but this just shows that the track was a leveller for everyone and this made it all the better for me

[Medders]

Originally Posted by notlawnomis

LMFAO!!!

This is just the sort of thread and posts I expect from some racers these days!! Fair points on track opinions, I haven't been there so I'm not in a position to comment on "Is NRX suitable for 10th racing??" For once Lee seems the most level headed on the opinions shared, thats a complement Lee, I think, lol!

I really don't know why people bother putting any effort into organising events, or even putting meetings on at all. Its the same old sh*te time and time again, complaining about this and that if a meeting isn't to the exacting standards, apparently require these days. I thought racing was meant to be for enjoyment, certainly not for organisers anymore. These people give up their free time and expense, at times sacrificing work and family commitments to put meetings on for you guys to dissect every aspect that isn’t to your liking. I’m not going into specific comments made here, but some thing’s mentioned are a complete joke and it makes you wonder what has happened to common sense! (no one comment targeted, before I here the reasons behind everyones justification for their comments, not interested!!).

I for one will never help organise a regional event (from previous experience), its just not worth putting the effort in and I'm sure many more organisers are starting to feel this way. It’s a real shame people don’t just make the most of these meetings, and dare I say it, offer to help out if something isn’t to your liking. This thread is a really good example of today’s selfish society!!

Advice for organisers = Don’t bother your arses

Go for it Guys!!

Enjoy

What a load of rubbish. How can you comment when you haven't been there. This is not about little moans etc, and certainly isn't a critisism of the meeting itself and all the effort put in. Its about fundamentally whether the track is suited to 10th scale racing. If you didn't race yesterday I don't see why you bothered to get involved in something you know nothing about

[turbo_brick]

Just to make you all happy the chairman of NRX has withdrawn the club from any further regionals, wether they continue to work on the track for 10th scale is up to them.

I've now got the same opinion as simon as to why do people bother trying to run events, yes the track wasn't perfect but the people there are still working on it, they just ran out of time before the regional.

And there wasn't a single comment made to me about the track, you just all seem to wait till your infront of a keyboard, all it would of took was to come and see me at the end of the day instead of running off home as soon as possible, constructive critism is always welcome, moaning and twisting on the internet isn't

Peter

[rcracer]

Originally Posted by turbo_brick

Just to make you all happy the chairman of NRX has withdrawn the club from any further regionals, wether they continue to work on the track for 10th scale is up to them.

I've now got the same opinion as simon as to why do people bother trying to run events, yes the track wasn't perfect but the people there are still working on it, they just ran out of time before the regional.

And there wasn't a single comment made to me about the track, you just all seem to wait till your infront of a keyboard, all it would of took was to come and see me at the end of the day instead of running off home as soon as possible, constructive critism is always welcome, moaning and twisting on the internet isn't

Peter

Sorry to hear this Peter i assume you mean the last 4wd round at nrx wont take place or do you mean after it ?
Neil..

[turbo_brick]

Originally Posted by rcracer

Sorry to hear this Peter i assume you mean the last 4wd round at nrx wont take place or do you mean after it ?
Neil..

Last round won't be run at NRX.

Peter

[Lee]

Really gutted for you and the club Peter, i was really looking forward to the 4wd round as this is by far the best track we have in the NE region (blyth isn't finished yet before people comment)

[rcracer]

Originally Posted by Lee

Really gutted for you and the club Peter, i was really looking forward to the 4wd round as this is by far the best track we have in the NE region (blyth isn't finished yet before people comment)

Me too Lee, paul told me last night he ran his cat sx (2wd ) and it went really well didnt break it and took all the jumps, looks like i will have to see if i can now fit in enough rounds to count for points as i am trying to fit everything in like the 4wd regionals, deerdale series and north east 8th regionals as well as my own commitment

[Mike Hudson]

Right, after all the comments in this thread including mine, it's become quite evenly split on what people thought of the track and heres my thoughts on what the track could possibly benefit from if the 4wd regional was still to be run although already said not to be this is taking everyones comments into account....

Astroturf needs properly joining/pinning down
Those logs in the track taken out
Alot of bumps smoothed out
Run upto jumps less random?
Some sorts of wind guards round the track for Tel?
Few minutes at the end to take feedback on the day from people?

[cmgreen]

Well thats disapointing news, but you cant blame the guy considering all the moaning thats went on already.

The miniorty have spoilt it for the rest of us, Many Thanks.

Even though i didnt race yesterday i must say thanks for putting yesterday on!

[footey]

[quote=Mike Hudson;234865]Right, after all the comments in this thread including mine, it's become quite evenly split on what people thought of the track

i wasnt there for 2wd but was looking forward to 4wd so not going to coment on the track BUT AS FOR A CLOSE VOTE I BELIVE CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE VOTED SEVREL TIMES UNDER DIFFRENT NAMES SO NOT REALY A FAIR VOTE

[Lee]

Originally Posted by Mike Hudson

Right, after all the comments in this thread including mine, it's become quite evenly split on what people thought of the track and heres my thoughts on what the track could possibly benefit from if the 4wd regional was still to be run although already said not to be this is taking everyones comments into account....

Astroturf needs properly joining/pinning down, Why which ones were random?
Those logs in the track taken out, Why they could be taken flat out and rewarded those who took a chance?
Alot of bumps smoothed out, Again which ones?
Run upto jumps less random? Like?
Some sorts of wind guards round the track for Tel? What if the wind blows in a different direction?
Few minutes at the end to take feedback on the day from people?

This also shouldn't be required, people should be grateful to have a facility and possibly give constructive criticism as they are thanking the club[/QUOTE]

Mike, i know you are trying to help but you don't know what you are talking about, you don't know where the bumps were, or how drivable the track was. It was not an obstacle course, it was very race-able.

[Hulk]

First of all i would like to say a big thanks to the club for putting on the event. I felt they did an excellent job of making sure the day ran smoothly which in my opinion it did. Also a big thanks for the effort put in to trying to make sure the track was suitable for 1/10th, your efforts are much appreciated.

I dont think its fair the club takes any of the blame for it been such a poor 1/10th track they did the best they could.

I totally agree the track was awful to drive and almost impossible to get any consistent runs in without breaking anything. The jumps were far too big and almost certain to cause damage. The fact that Steve Lawson who is a seriously experienced driver blew about three shocks, not from crashing but from the sheer impact of landing proves this. I for one suffered many breakages throughout the day many of which were no fault of my own. In the fourth round i was going down the straight in a perfectly straight line when my car just decided to flip causing the rear shock tower to break along with various other parts. This was very frustrating not only from a racing point of view but also from a cost point of view.

I spent over £30 on new parts throughout the day so adding that to the cost of tyres, entry fee and petrol money the whole day cost me arount £80! not what i expect to be shelling out for a regional especially when you can only manage to complete a few runs without breaking something. For some money might not be an issue but for others it is and given the current economic situation where people are been cautious with their hard earned money the last thing we need is to race on a track where its gonna cost people a fortune and maybe put people off the sport!

I consider myself to be quite an experienced racer but still struggled to get round without breaking. I feel seriously sorry anyone who went yesterday and are just getting into the sport, god knows how much they must have spent fixing their cars. Please dont let this event put you off any other venue is usually a lot more forgiving.

Lee - you say you dont think the track was that bad but come one, everywhere you looked cars were in bits. You even said to me at one point look at how many b4's are in bits. This situation is unacceptable and certainly not fair for those racing on a budget. Even cars that were going over the jumps one at a time were still breaking things.

Like i said this is not a dig at the club in any way but more a bad decision to allow the club to run a regional. As soon as the club put themselves forward the track should have been inspected to make sure it was suitable.

At the end of the day we live and learn and i think they should be allowed to run another event providing they take peoples feedback on board and make some major improvements to the track for next time.

[turbo_brick]

It's not a case of being allowed to run another event, they have refused due to the comments made. The person who was race director is my partner (who's ID this is) who also ran Jarrow last year and the chairman of Jarrow club.

Videos before and after more smoothing were done of 1/10th cars going around the track were submitted with the offer of holding a regional at NRX when the application was approved at the consortium meeting. I stood getting VERY cold in my own time taking the video so this was done! Oh yes, that means even more effort was made to ensure suitability and agreement of it's use!

As far as the comments so far, I didn't go because I was sick of the grief already. Some who voted against were not there (just in response to multiple comments) and many also do not use oople I do wonder why people assume everyone does and the opinion on oople is considered so highly, very few made comments on the day - why?, the disrespect shown especially by those who have probably never held a club night nevermind a regional event is disgsuting!

When some people manage not to break cars and state the track was great to drive, I am unsure how the issues can be blamed entirely on a track......it's down to the way they drove it as the other cars which got round fine were not made of some unbreakable substance, they were the same cars.

I am in a way pleased NRX has pulled out of this, hundreds of hours put in by many people to be slated, however unfair it is on those who enjoyed the event I don't blame them at all and hope other clubs show their response to this disgraceful lack of respect in the same way! I see no reason why the club should make improvements to keep people happy who will never be happy and will twist on 21! Tell those who it seems only attend to moan about it on oople to go organise it themselves - see how they like it. Keep going like this and you won't have many regionals left to do. You already have several clubs reluctant or refusing to hold a regional event again for a sport which was already struggling to keep interest because of the attitude of attending racers. If you have a problem with something say it on the day!

Thanks to those who did appreciate the hours many, including those who don't race 1/10th, put in to make this possible it does mean a lot to these unpaid volunteers.

I am pleased the event cost some people under £100, it cost my family more than that just this week in fuel costs, missed work and other expenses I wouldn't even like to try to add the total up, that was MY printer and MY paper, and MY ink cartridges you were using which I provided free (I have only mentioned this when people have mentioned costs are an issue, but don't seem to think about the true costs in this sort of event) but of course that doesn't matter we're not supposed to moan, just take grief! The club would have made more running a normal race day than this event.

I suppose we should suggest Jarrow should just do a flat grass track with bubble wrap around the ropes and no jumps, cotton wool to wrap the cars in, better still maybe a tarmac touring car track or would that be too hard? FFS get a grip! Off road isn't supposed to be flat or without challenges.

(mrs) turbo_brick

[Garry Driffill]

After all the time and effort put into this track by Peter and the club members to make it suitable to race on for 10th cars AND to get this into the North East regional series it gets taken out of the series for the comments made by some people which annoys me - I bet a number of the people who said NO havent even raced there!!. This has to be one of THE best looking tracks we have in our north east series aswell.

To put it bluntly im discusted, I was REALLY looking forward to this.

[Lee]

There is at least 2 that i know of who have voted no and quite possibly haven't even seen the track, never mind raced on it

[Medders]

Originally Posted by Lee

There is at least 2 that i know of who have voted no and quite possibly haven't even seen the track, never mind raced on it

There's also quite a few who have posted their disgust at some of the comments made who have never been to or raced on the track. People shouldn't comment either way from an uninformed position.

[Garry Driffill]

I think the people who expressed there 'Discust' and distaste at the fact that people are uhappy that this wont be used in the North East regional series is simply because they know how much hard work has been put into this...

If that was aimed at me Medders i have been there

[Medders]

No Gary, it wasn't, I know you've been there