RB5 Mid Custom Special

[Dufty07]

I had my brother in law SimonW build my g/box's. He has been into racin rc since he was a kid, (And knows his shit)he built his original g/box(first batch of 15 conversion kits) and ran it NO problems at all. But none of the three I have tried have lasted longer than 3 mins. On inspection all twisted.. All in the bin..... I met fabs at petit when I brought it and he was a VERY NICE BLOKE. So please dont take offence fabs....... But I do feel gutted I spent money on this expensive paper weight.

Have u sold ure mcs fabs?

[le_sam]

there's lot of (too much?!) time i'm waiting, without saying anything.

i've made the first French National this year (03/13/11), very good car.
except that i'm not running with it since that race

now running on SC & waiting for a new gearbox...

college's professor i know can do that, but you (Fabs) tell me that you'll do that.
now it's the end of school year, 3 others National are left, i'm fucked.

if someone do that (gearbox), i'll be a customer!

that's all folks!

[RudeTony]

Hey Fab, of course we are for real.
Also real is the money people have given you for a product that has and still has major gearbox problems. The total opposite to the great Kyosho standard gearbox.
On this point (Nick) I think people could take offence at your comment to 'if the gearbox was built right' but I know what your trying to say!!
Promises that you still cannot deliver Fab and that's after 6 months or saying, soons and maybes!
John is too nice when he says the car is good.
I don't think it's good at all. There is no comparison to others out there in my opinion. The Scorpion by Roger was way way better and the Vega is in a league of it's own with it's master piece of engineering (especially the gearbox).
As for Craig, nice chap and a great driver and in a way I feel sorry for him as he could of won a National this year if he drove a better car. He is doing real good with the car though but it also has to be pointed out that he is the only one that is.
Lastly but not least, Your chassis are numbered Fab and I had no. 18 so lets face it after 45.000 views that this thread has seen it's not a lot of product really and at £200 per conversion and at £25 for a rear tower i would of thought you could of at least sorted out 20 odd gearbox cases for the people that paid a bundle of money to you

[Buzz65]

This mid-engine thing seems to be all the rage on that side of the pond. Over here in the US, I'm not aware that many manufacturers are even running mid-engine setups except the new Venom...which I'd stay away from at this point.

It's a shame really as the Kyosho following seems to be strong over there. I would have like to see this be successful.

[njc11]

Originally Posted by njc11

If built correctly, and time and common sense used on the assembly, to check that everything runs free, and not to overtighten gearbox screws you shouldnt have an issue... I know Mike Pimlott spent some time sorting his gearbox which has run faultlessly... Chris Cocker now has this car and again no issues.. One thing you must do is dont run the slipper too loose..

I just made a general statement..

Could be said about the Vega anyway? shimming layshaft, having to dremel the motormount/heatsink so the wishbone on spur gear side didnt catch etc.. all cars have niggley little things, somemore than others...No question the vega is a nice piece of kit

I think your comment on Fabs car though is a little harsh... the car is good.. and to be fair i dont think you gave your MCS long enough to evaluate properly.. gearbox issues or screw fixings for the gearbox or rear tower again are solved quite easily.. Pimlott who bought yours sorted the car.. hes now sold this on to chris cocker ( he has a drive with another manufacturer ) who at his first national out with it at Talywain made an E final.. I know of someone else who has just got one, so another one will be around...

What you have to remember also is Fabs designed this car from scratch.. so from all his cad drawings to getting 2 prototypes made, then a small production run is not something anyone else probably wouldnt even bother to do.. the cost implications and myther etc... but no Fabs did and deserves some credit.. Nathan Ralls helped him also by driving one.. im sure he'll be along with something to say!

My offer still stands to any MCS owners who want me to take a look at there gearboxes.

[RudeTony]

Originally Posted by njc11

I just made a general statement..

Could be said about the Vega anyway? shimming layshaft, having to dremel the motormount/heatsink so the wishbone on spur gear side didnt catch etc.. all cars have niggley little things, somemore than others...No question the vega is a nice piece of kit

Shimming layshafts???
Dremel mount???
I have never had to do any of that Nick and I have been driving the car now for 6 months. Saying that I haven't taken it apart that much as it just never lets you down.
Even you have to agree that the engineering of the Vega is Premier League compared to MCS in the Conference.

[Neil Skull]

Not really for me to get involved, but i will for this reason,

All you guys who run the Kyosho cars i consider friends, wheter MCS, Vega or pure Kyosho, We love the shocks the gearboxes the diffs etc.
I am quite happy if a MCS wins or a Vega, an SP2 would be better but in the UK i know the Mid motor car is the favourite. I do like my SP2 though!!
What i dont like is to see a split in our happy camp!!

We all know Fabs has problems with the gearboxes. lets leave it at that and not get into a slanging match please!!!!!
We all have our opinions on this but!!!!!! its best the MCS customers only manage this with Fabs.

Nuff said now who is going to start a new thread with racing results from the weekend?

[Hulk]

Seen as my name is being mentioned here i feel i should have my say.

First off, in my opinion the MCS is one of the best 2wd cars ive ever had the pleasure of driving.

Yes the car has only been in 2 National A finals, but thats 2 out of 3 this year, with one BQ and win! I only got my hands on the prototype car in June last year, and was one of a very few number of people running the car. Therefore i had no clue about what set ups worked etc until the outdoor season had almost finished.

Since finding the right set ups the results speak for themselves.

1. Silverstone weekender (1st)
2. Worksop indoor series (1st)
3. Chadderton indoor series (1st)
4. Broxtowe Christmas cracker (1st)
5. Petit race (A final)
6. Stotfold National (A final)
7. RHR National (BQ and win)
8. Talywain National (A final and my highest ever 2wd qualifying position)
9. Stannington Regional (1st)
10. Oople invernational (2nd)

As for feeling sorry for me, please don't lol. Im more than happy with the car and the results ive achieved. Im simply not good enough to win a National at the moment or ever for that matter. I quit racing from the age of around 14 and had nearly 9 years away from the hobby, making up for those lost years is too late at my age lol. No matter what car i drove i wouldnt win a National, but the MCS is more than capable of doing so in the right hands.

As for the competition, i know a certain top driver who has won many UK Nationals but not with the Vega, nor did he make the A with the Vega on his home track .

As for the gearbox situation, i totally understand everyones frustration but Fabs does not have the privilege of being able to make his own gearboxes in house. He has to outsource the work and find someone to make them at a reasonable cost, which is proving difficult. He will get them done but its just a matter of when.

Fabs is a really nice guy who only wants to do right by everyone, im sure he's just as, if not more frustrated than everyone else.

Craig Collinson

[RudeTony]

Neil - Good morning!
As usual, you're a gentleman and a credit to Kyosho but the reasons we are posting here is because Fab is simply playing people along and promising stuff that he clearly cannot or is not delivering.
I was a customer of Fab and was promised this stuff and more 6 months ago and all I see is the excuses he makes to everyone.
My point is the realibility of it and how it makes Kyosho cars look bad.

Craig - Hi yah
You are a talented driver and you make the MCS look good but even you will agree that there is no one else getting those type of results.
Your point of the car being capable, is noted.
No one, especially me is questioning your results or your talent but beyond that there is no one doing well with the car as it fails.
We can all come on here and list our results and who we beat and where and how but the core of the problem is Fab NOT sorting out the gearbox problem on his MCS. He might look after you as his top driver but the others are clearly suffering. He should of taken up the offer of a really nice gearbox at an attractive price and available at the time - instead nothing - FACT.
I feel Fab has a responsibility to solve the problem

As for comparison of results between mid-motored car, that surely is another subject

I won't be posting here again .....my point is made

[DCM]

Thread stinks, vested interests come to mind....

Tony, you have been in the game long enough to of realised by now that people do get things wrong, some do try to fix it, some don't, as far as I know, Fabien is a one man band, doing this outside of his usual day job, I know it doesn't make it better, but thats how it is. I think the criticisms have to be careful as Fab may just want to say, stuff it then!! Your words are coming across as 'The Vega is better than the MCS, so don't buy that pile of shite.' Which, for a long standing member of the racing community is a little 'off'. Sure Fab should of sorted it out, but this is taking things a little to far.

Fab, pull your finger out, Tony, step away from the keyboard, enough said!

[Dufty07]

Change of tone............. It's Meatloaf for tea 2nite!.... mmmmmmmmmmmmeatloaf....

[Lowie]

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[edit]
all these aggressive and IMHO very over-reacted postings just make me sick.
I deleted my post ..
leave posting to others, cancel my subscription to this thread and wait for the good news from fabs via e-mail & ...

[ASR]

[SimonW]

Well, It's 10 weeks til' the 3,4,5's any closer yet?

[Dufty07]

My R.C.S is doing VERY WELL, sticking the original rb5 g/box on fabs chasis has worked really well, on grass anyway, yet to test on astro.
Hope the rumers of no g/box's being made are false as would be a shame to waste a Very nice chasis
If u want any pics p.m me.

[le_sam]

yes, the MCS is a nice one!
"RCS" is interesting, i'm always openminded by innovations.
so, interested by pics!

i've missed 2011's outdoor season, that's enought for me.
but i'm sure all MCS'll run, in few times...

[Rebelrc]

Uhum! Team Xtreme and vega are a one man band also . (supporting a young family) And it's a an insult that fabs gets all this kid gloves treatment and a pat on the back. For creating what isnot a great product. fix the car and shut up. I offered to fix there gear box for FREE months ago but was never taken up on the offer (that's how important it is to sort it out to mcs)

I cannot believe the Gaul of some people to slag off vega / team Xtreme or compare themselves to them when they have only made a few bendy bad half conversions ( THAT MOST DO NOT WORK )
Let's get this straight once and for all , Fabs you are no where near in the same league as (Lewis ) vega / team x.
Team X is a complete car made from many of the best materials , packaging , posting, anodising, machining, sourcing hardware, developing new concepts, etc etc all done by one person!
Then for a hobby makes the vega conversions for 5 different chassis with the absolute ultimate quality and reliability at a virtual loss ( normal machine cost an hour most places are about £100+ material) just to bring the ultimate quality to the average racer. All one person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All done and sold in the 6 months you have had to fix say 20 gearboxes lol
That same person that offered you help

You said your first reason was it's team Xtreme .
Like it was some kind of derogative word.
Someone on this thread gave you the best advise and that was , take it on the chin like a porn star lol

You are out of order!
So is this post of mine but it had to be said to stop you typing and make you realise you need to fix these cars ( about 24 hrs work)
A few of you have really upset me
I am glad you have ........ Actually I will stop there

[AndyG]

Beer is ace

[le_sam]

for sure, Vega is a good car, and maybe one day...
i'm looking at this pretty car, for sure
but for this moment, i'm thinking at my present car, the MCS.
(working well in my hands at least)
and to the others customers.

i don't care about Fab's
i don't understand why he refuse your offer.
he kills is "baby".

but monday i've a 'rendez-vous' with a nice compagny (with all the "stuff"), and maybe a nice friendly issue to share
(before buying a Vega of course!)

i'll tell you here in few days...

everything is possible if you know what you want!
then, an other interessant idea : Vega or MCS Short Course Kit (a longer chassis)
i'll do this, i think (except if Vega will... a Kyosho'SC for me, please! )

CNC pieces in few times i hope, not from Fab's, from 'anonymous', lol!!!

[t8rtot]

As much fun as it is to watch you guys argue, team x is not the most easiest company to deal with. I'm definately not defending this Fabs guy, but we can go and pull up 7-10 threads of customers begging for support and replies in the xtreme threads..

Rebel, your related to them correct? Brother-in-law if I'm not mistaken. This isn't the first time you've come to "save the day" how about you go back and answer my emails that are 1.5yrs old before you go on another tangent.

And if your not responsible for team xtremes issues, then you have no business speaking in the first place. AND I'm tired of that "one man show" bs, young family or not, if your taking ppls money, you owe them 100% of your commitment. I own two businesses and still can respond to 100+ daily orders with in 24-48hrs by myself. I'm a single father at that.

Not bashing either company, just the comments displaced on this thread.

I hope this Fabs guy gets this straightened out, in the mean time, any other manufacturers or fan boys should keep quite and let this get straightened out..