New National F Rating?

[Body Paint]

I do like the idea of that, but it does seem like you could get your F1 grade by just going to one meeting and having an abnormally good day.

What if the meeting were heald at a "Local Hero" style of track... you could end up with the people who have worked really hard to come 15th to 20th in the Nationals locked out of the F1 contention.

Definately plus's and minus's to that idea.

[GRIFF55]

That sounds good, I also like the idea of the *

[_sleigh_]

Originally Posted by pidge

this will make 20 F1's and also give the end of season finals a real meaning. rather than just a one off meeting.

You could concievably get more than 20 F1's. If the top 15 in 2WD has different drivers than in 4WD, and the top 5 in each class at the F2's is different.

That's not to bash the idea, coz I thinks it a good one.

I think the one adjustment that might get discussed at the AGM is to change your numbers to include a percentages. So it's might say, F1's to the top 15 people doing 4 of more events, and if the number of people completing 4 or more falls below a set figure then the "15" becomes a percentage, say 20%.

It just means the rule wouldn't need changing if the National became less attended anytime in the future.

[Yardeeee]

It's a good rule Pidge, but personally I don't agree with the part about the top five finishers at the EOS finals gaining a new license. I think an F1 should be achieved through hard work throughout the 6 round national series... someone who does not do any nats but then comes along to the BRC finals for example, happens to come say 3rd, they gain an F1 without even attending a national through the year? Doesn't seem fair to me... not when the guy who has come 16th in the nat series misses out after some really good results through the national season... and if he is an F1 previously, doesn't get to bump up through the BRC ch'ship... or is F2, can go, but has a shocking day. That part of the rule needs a rethink I think... a license grade should not be achieved off your performance at a one-off event.

Plus surely being crowned "British Regional Champion" or "F3/4/5 National Champion" means enough for people to have an incentive at EOS finals and gives meaning to the event anyway.

Just my view... good attempt at a proposal though, just needs a tweak I believe.

Tom Y.

[_sleigh_]

That's a good point raised by Yardy (nice avatar by the way )

I think the proposal is on the right track though. Anyone else have any thoughts on refinements??

[Lee Martin]

right ok...so maybe have to scrap that idea. i just thought this would lift the amount of peopel doing end of seasons.....

mayeb the F3 one could stand???

even im gettting confused

[millzy]

what about the top 3 at the EOS get an F 1.5 just means your ranked as a possible F1 grade the following year, and the same for the top 3 at the F3,4,5s as f.2.5 f3.5 and f 4.5

[Lee Martin]

way to complex

[matdodd]

I thought the same thing as Yardy.
But why not do it like it is now with a percentage say the top 15% get F1 then the next 20% get F2?

[Lee Martin]

you could do percentages.................

better having a round number of F1's like 15-20. then percentages the rest of the way dwn....

[Southwell]

Wasn't that what used to happen Lee?

[millzy]

Originally Posted by pidge

way to complex

why just means there f2s with f.15 next to her name so f2s can see how they rank against next years winners dosnt change the f1 % or make the f1s just gives them somthing for makeing the top3 like YOU said

[Chris Doughty]

I prefer the idea of fixed numbers.

it reduces the uncertanty. you could be in or out of F1 status just by the fact if people don't turn up to the last race and less people have 4-to-count.

with it being a smaller number, aiming for top 15 in the champ you can gauge how well you are doing for this?

(I know the same thing kind of happens all ready but) imagine being 15th going to the last round, finishing 15th and as the percentages work out only 'top 12%' works out to only 14th.... gutted

[Lee Martin]

round number for F1...........percentage to F2

[Lee Martin]

Originally Posted by millzy

why just means there f2s with f.15 next to her name so f2s can see how they rank against next years winners dosnt change the f1 % or make the f1s just gives them somthing for makeing the top3 like YOU said

Back down welshy!!!!!!

hahahah

im changing mind on end of season things due to toms idea,

[matdodd]

Ye but no more gutted than say Gaz this year when he missed out by one place!
Theres always going to be one person who just looses out

[super__dan]

I can see the point here but think %'s are the way to go rather than fixed numbers. I also think if you are to put a rule in like this you need to think about the whole license grade and the effects on other people through F2 and unless you want to end up with a HUGE amount of F2's from nationals it effects what people will become F3's as well.

For me this year I really wanted to get top 25 (and a trophy) for some reason in my mind that seems a good number, I don't feel it needs to be as eliteist as you guys when the other license grades will be split between so many drivers.

[matdodd]

I know what your sayin Dan I always look to try & make the top 25 maybe thats the way to go as we already do pots for the top 25!

[Kopite]

group hug tomorrow lads!!!

my vote goes to top 10 or maybe 15 for F1, so when you see an F1 at a club meeting or even a regional, you think 'jesus, he must be good'.

Top 40ish isn't exclusive enough in my opinion.

[matdodd]

[quote=Kopite;59052]group hug tomorrow lads!!!


Not if you drive like last weekend