Go Back   oOple.com Forums > Car Talk > X-Factory

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 03-08-2009
Body Paint's Avatar
Body Paint Body Paint is offline
*SuPeRsTaR mEmBeR*
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newport, South Wales
Posts: 2,039
Default

Remove the rear roll bar, go to 25 weight rear oil and add a bit of weight under the Lipo and you'll be bang on
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-08-2009
YoungChazz's Avatar
YoungChazz YoungChazz is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,073
Default

There are lots of low-bite dirt set-ups on the new www.xfactoryrc.com web site. Click on the X - 6 Squared box and go to Tech, then set-up sheets.

Set-ups from U.S. drivers Brian, Dan, Paul, and Nick all work under different conditions. Of course these are all for dirt tracks. Dirt and grass/astro set-ups are far different. The U.K. Boyz are all running weight while the dirt-trackers are running light.

We hope to get up today or tomorrow the new "standard" Kit set-ups which are now included in every Kit. The buggy has two set-ups we strongly reccommend as the starting point no matter where you are. One for grass/astro and one for dirt. The truck has just one, for dirt.

These new standard set-ups will be at the top of the set-up page. 99% of the time, Team drivers are within a washer or two of thse. If the standard set-up is not working for you, it's probably tires.
__________________


Engineering Without Fear
www.XFactoryRC.com
www.facebook.com/XFactoryRC
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-08-2009
fastinfastout fastinfastout is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 877
Default antisquat

I'm a little confused about the antisquat on the X6.

Coming from the B4, the shims are added to the 'forward' side of the rear arm mount. (forward side of hinge pin higher)

But the X6, you put shims to the 'rear', on the toe in block. (rear side of hinge pin higher)

Doesnt this create 'pro-squat', the opposite of antisquat?
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-08-2009
Body Paint's Avatar
Body Paint Body Paint is offline
*SuPeRsTaR mEmBeR*
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newport, South Wales
Posts: 2,039
Default

No.

If you remove all the shims on an X6 Sq you will have 4 degrees of anti squat. If you put 4mm of shims in the X6 Sq you will have zero degrees anti squat.

Only if you put more than 4mm of spacers in the X6 Sq will you get pro squat.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-08-2009
YoungChazz's Avatar
YoungChazz YoungChazz is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,073
Default

The big thing is that you can change it easily & quickly. If you've got the D.M.S. CF shims, you don't even have to pull the two bottom bolts! 60 seconds or less...
__________________


Engineering Without Fear
www.XFactoryRC.com
www.facebook.com/XFactoryRC
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 06-08-2009
fastinfastout fastinfastout is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 877
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Body Paint View Post
No.

If you remove all the shims on an X6 Sq you will have 4 degrees of anti squat. If you put 4mm of shims in the X6 Sq you will have zero degrees anti squat.

Only if you put more than 4mm of spacers in the X6 Sq will you get pro squat.
ahh......

that makes sense now.

I dont recall seeing anything in the conversion manual about that, or I may have skipped it.

So what I thought I had 0 degrees antisquat, I now know I have 4 degrees, which is how I like it at the moment. Turns nicely with 4 degrees, for me!
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 06-08-2009
Body Paint's Avatar
Body Paint Body Paint is offline
*SuPeRsTaR mEmBeR*
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Newport, South Wales
Posts: 2,039
Default

Try experimenting with a little less anti squat, especially on high bite tracks. I find my X6 squared jumps lower and flatter with less anti squat, it also feels faster through the tight turns I am now running 2 degrees of anti squat.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 06-08-2009
fastinfastout fastinfastout is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 877
Default

Yeh I tried less antisquat, but with more antisquat its turning in slightly slower, but holds its line alot tighter mid turn.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 08-08-2009
fastinfastout fastinfastout is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 877
Default transmission height

Can someone explain to me about the adjustment of transmission height please?

I cannot think of a reason to want to set up the car other then driveshafts running completely horizontal. This is the most efficient method for setting up ride height, is it not?
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 08-08-2009
jono83's Avatar
jono83 jono83 is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Oswestry
Posts: 1,365
Send a message via MSN to jono83
Default

The adjustment is there to change handling characteristics mainly where the dog bone makes contact withe the outdrive. Raising or lowering the gearbox adjusts the amount of forward drive and the amount of side bite. raisnng it will give more forward drive and less side bite lowering it will give less forward traction and more side bite. well in theory anyway lol

hth

jono
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 08-08-2009
YoungChazz's Avatar
YoungChazz YoungChazz is offline
Mad Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,073
Default

The Team is experimenting more and more with tranny height. It's one of those things where in previous cars we could not play with it easily so when we began with the X Cars it was not a familiar thing to adjust.

As we've gotten more comfortable with the car we're finding out that tranny height can make a big difference in lots of things. Yes, the grass/astro standard set-up is zero, but that's after some experimentation in those special conditions.

The standard set-up for everyplace else is 0.060" and the Kinwald set-up is 0.090". One of the few things Brian changed between Omaha and Hot Rod was tranny height.
__________________


Engineering Without Fear
www.XFactoryRC.com
www.facebook.com/XFactoryRC
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 16-08-2009
fastinfastout fastinfastout is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 877
Default antisquat US set up

whats the antisquat for the US starting set up?
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 16-08-2009
hottuna hottuna is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 200
Default

I raised the tranny in my last race on slippery gravel track, and i got much more forward traction. Didn't notice any less side bite. Definitely a setup to play with!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
oOple.com