NE Regionals?

[ben]

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.

[josh_smaxx]

Originally Posted by ben

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.

Thats a good point i had never thought of, even though only one lipo is actually needed thats still minimum of £50, plus probably £200+ for cells for nationals its getting pricey, i say when LiPo is legal for national use then we can use it in regionals, lets just hope this happens sooner than later as i for one cant wait to move to this new technology.

[bigred5765]

but if you can and would like to then why not

[ben]

well maybe they might have a leading edge over the cells we are using?
Then that would make it unfair?

[bigred5765]

but then shouldn't we all run same motors, as our 5.5 is quicker than your 6.5 isn't that just as unfair

[LEGEND]

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.

[ben]

but wouldnt they lipo cells have to be tested with PW. Would they be ready in time. Just think how long it took for the national cell lists to be released?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by ben

I dont see the point in lipo for the moment in my opinion. The reason being that it means that people could have to buy 2 different types of cells if they were going to do the nationals and regionals.

Originally Posted by josh_smaxx

Thats a good point i had never thought of, even though only one lipo is actually needed thats still minimum of £50, plus probably £200+ for cells for nationals its getting pricey, i say when LiPo is legal for national use then we can use it in regionals, lets just hope this happens sooner than later as i for one cant wait to move to this new technology.

so what about those who dont have legal cells for nationals? or who just wantto do regionals NE would have at least 4 new racers i know of if lipo was allowed, 3 of which are members of the new UK Dremel team!!

the idea of regionals is to build up to nationals, so why not encourage new comers to do them with what thay have or a cheaper solution, ben correct me but you have beat me every round running nimh while i have run lipo at worksop
so you can use your national cells at regional and still beat me.

besides it aint going to happen this year in any regionals, non can run lipo unless the driver does not wantto score points/F grading and run in a seperate final

[ben]

lol. Ive never been to worksop i want to though. sorry for the confusion

[josh_smaxx]

Originally Posted by bigred5765

but then shouldn't we all run same motors, as our 5.5 is quicker than your 6.5 isn't that just as unfair

I see where your coming from, a 5.5 novak motor is faster than a 6.5 navak motor, but there the same price near enough. Now take LEGEND in his previous post, say he was an F3 and got into all the nationals, he now has to work his socks off on his paper round to get the money for a minimum of 3 sets of cells for the nationals. He also uses a CE pitbul X3 charger that doesnt charge LiPo, so he needs a LiPo which could set him back £50, then around £100 for a LiPo compatible charger, thats £150 just so he can stay competative at regionals, bit much i think. Im aware that most people are adults, do have jobs and can afford this but it will still be a blow to most wallets it could have done without. Im all for new technology and would love to run LiPo but just looking out for other people who are doing both regional and nationals who cant really afford the extra LiPo.

Hope i made some sense there lol.

P.S. Sorry LEGEND for using you as an example i'll pick on someone else next time.

EDIT: there has been a couple of posts while i was typing this, sorry if topics hav already been covered.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by LEGEND

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.

why do they need lipo? nimh thay have got that they use at nationals would be fine

Originally Posted by ben

but wouldnt they lipo cells have to be tested with PW. Would they be ready in time. Just think how long it took for the national cell lists to be released?

there in for testing the sticks have allready passed and on the list!

Originally Posted by ben

lol. Ive never been to worksop i want to though. sorry for the confusion

doh. maybe we can get to race some where then

[Cockerill]

Does anyone honestly believe that their laptimes would improve in performance by making their car quicker? If so why are you not running 3.5 Brushless motors?

Lipo does not offer a performance advantage that cannot already be achieved with NiMH. If allowed I'm sure they would still run to the same weight limits so theres no advantage there.

The advantage of running Lipo is that it allows us to practice for when they become legal at nationals (IF it gets proposed and passed at the AGM). It also gives for a much more relaxed days racing in my experience. It also means that people who use Lipo can save there NiMH batteries for national events only, so they will be in better condition for the most important meetings.

I was under the impression that it could not be run under BRCA rules, but after hearing that other regions are planning on allowing it why shouldn't?

[Lee]

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.

[ben]

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4

[josh_smaxx]

Tom, that made alot of sense in terms of weight limits, relaxed racing and using LiPo to save your best NiMhs for nats, im ight have to change my tune shortly and then i'll look like a 'tard.

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by LEGEND

I agree with Ben on this one. It might be un-fair for those who currently cannot either afford Lipo batteries or who would need to buy a new charger to run them, which could be a bit pricey for some people.

then let them run thier national cells!!

[josh_smaxx]

Originally Posted by ben

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4

You have a soldering iron......... do it yourself

[Cockerill]

Originally Posted by Lee

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.

Practice for nationals if they get approved.

More relaxed days racing, in my experience

People can save there NiMH for nationals so they perform at their best.

Does anyone have an argument for not allowing them, other than BRCA rules?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Lee

Whats the advantage of using lipo, if the cars are at the weight limit and we already have more power than we can handle, whats the point?

Plus if we went lipo, it would take all the fun out of dodging flying Nimh cells.

see toms reply

no balancing,equalizing full charging just top up, no need for gennerators (less noise) and your only topping up a 12 volt can cope easier
more time to whatch racing talk to mates ( if you have any)
can do a day on one pack, ask tom!

Originally Posted by ben

so then.... whos gonna make me a 2x2x2 lipo pack to go in my S4

atomic know the dimension, expect a poss chassis for lipo is my guess

Originally Posted by josh_smaxx

Tom, that made alot of sense in terms of weight limits, relaxed racing and using LiPo to save your best NiMhs for nats, im ight have to change my tune shortly and then i'll look like a 'tard.

not a tard, just a slow learner

[mark christopher]

right i will say that NO regional can run lipo for 2008, clubs can as they wish,well to be exact they can run them BUT the driver will need to run a seperate final and wont score points/F grading
this comes to me from PW,