Losi 22 and tyres ?

[ianjoyner]

Originally Posted by andys

From my findings I reckon around 10 degrees of anti squat should make the car drivable !

I've generally found the car more competitive when the grip levels have been high, which I guess tallies with new tyres. Something I've also noticed is uneven tyre wear on mini spikes, I was wearing the inside edges of the fronts at Southport and only the centre of the rears. I would have thought grip and tyre wear would be better if I could use all of the spikes!

[jkclifford]

Strangely got 2 meeting out of a set of original Schumacher mini spike and just about 1 meeting out of the new mini spike 2. Same track same conditions same set staggers up front.

[andys]

Im at the conclusion that the car was designed as a rear motor 1st - for the US market, then a mid motor 2nd. Mid motor is a compromised design that i'm guessing was not a widely tested on UK style tracks ?

The motor in mid config does look way too far forward, which is why we are all putting weight all over the shop - the motor should have being further back and over the wheels !

I'm going to weight mine up a bit more - put a tamer motor in it and gear it high to try to calm down the acceleration as much as possible. (Already got the slipper slipping, speedo set on lowest punch, throttle curve set etc !)

If it's still not happy unless I put new tyres on it, it will be retired or i'll put the motor out the back !

[sly]

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74468

Got one of these on my losi 22 and its right where the weight is needed.

[Chris56]

Originally Posted by sly

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74468

Got one of these on my losi 22 and its right where the weight is needed.

I've just ordered one of these too - did you use it with the rear weight kit?

[steveproracing]

I'm using the equivalent of cream weight and this combined with a slipper brass flywheel is awesome if you move shock top to outer on tower!!
I can now make the car understeer if I want.
Oh and this is on 2 meeting old minispikes!!

I tq'd the York meeting last Saturday like this.
I couldn't get the rear of my car to break free without very aggressive throttle control.

[jonathan may]

wonder when grip is low LRC blocks will help with rear end grip.

[steveproracing]

Lrc def gives you more forward drive than hrc.

[team buck]

Hi guys one thing that i would say to try is to raise the gearbox by 2mm. Just like on the x6 this will give you more forward traction. I have done this to my 22 and i can now run old tyers and still have lots of traction out of the corner.

[jonathan may]

how is this done?

[team buck]

To get it to the same as what i am running you need to do the following.
(Befor you screw it all down check the length of your screws)
1. put 2 AC shock limit washers over the rear pivot block screws that go into the gearbox.
2. do the same to the bracket in front of the motor.
3. The front pivort block i cut the screw tabs off a t3 anti-sauat insert and then put this under the normal anti-squat insert that i run.

Hope that makes sens

[Chris56]

Just by way of an update/comparrison:

when I got the TLR22 I was racing indoor on carpet, after 3 weeks the Mini-Pins were completely useless

Over the summer I fitted the Cream rear weight

I have been back indoors for 4 weeks and my rear tyres still have plenty of grip - so much that I am still trying to dial out the understeer that I am experiencing.

As Sly said, the weight is exactly where it is needed, but also it seems to solve the tyre issue, particularly on high-grip tracks

[AmiSMB]

I have just read this thread and after trying out some dBoots terrabyte tyres new and some Schmacher mini pin yellow new I found that the car was so different to when I used any worn tyre. I have been playing with weight, changing saddles round 90 degree and all sorts and the biggest difference made was new tyres. I will have to get a Cream weight to see how it reacts then when the tyres get worn.

[cryer-evo]

i two have found that the 22 loves new tyres fastrax turff gripers all round when new all the grip you could wont but after 4 batteries the rear were shot ok on the astro but on very worn grass useless good job the fastrax are only £5 i did try a set of yellow mini pins but found them to have to much grip on the astro and not enuff on the grass so will be running mini spikes on my car indoor on carpet i run mini pins all round and slam the car on the deck

[cryer-evo]

So then can some of you put your choice of tyres front and rear and track ie carpet/ astro / clay/ grass

On a astro/ grass track I like mini spikes all round
On a carpet indoor track I like mini pins all round

What do you lot like ?

[Chris56]

Originally Posted by cryer-evo

So then can some of you put your choice of tyres front and rear and track ie carpet/ astro / clay/ grass

On a astro/ grass track I like mini spikes all round
On a carpet indoor track I like mini pins all round

What do you lot like ?

Carpet - yellow mini pins on rear, cut staggers on front. Rear tyres are now 6 meetings old and still really grippy

[cryer-evo]

Any one els won't to put there tyre set up on here also what Inserts
I run med all around but I am thinking of trying soft to see if I can get more even were as at the mo rear is middle worn only

[cryer-evo]

Hi all was wondering if there is anywhere in the uk to get foam tyres for my 22 as I do a lot of indor carpet racing

[kayce]

Originally Posted by cryer-evo

Any one els won't to put there tyre set up on here also what Inserts
I run med all around but I am thinking of trying soft to see if I can get more even were as at the mo rear is middle worn only

If you're only wearing out the middle of your tyres it suggests you're just buzzing off/spinning the rear tires from having too much motor and being too aggressive on the throttle.

Originally Posted by cryer-evo

Hi all was wondering if there is anywhere in the uk to get foam tyres for my 22 as I do a lot of indor carpet racing

I think you would find, unless you're just racing on flat track (no jumps), that offroad style tyres with inserts will outperform foam. You might want to contact member OneKiwi as he has access to some very nice rubber slicks that might better serve your purposes.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ghlight=Slicks

[cryer-evo]

Yes there is jumps but only small ones I think it could be the way I drive then as I am running a 6.5 and I am bit of a throttle jabber