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The LA216B front shock tower is a huge improvement in strength, not heard of a broken one yet.
I broke one at Eastrax on Sunday - and this is with the reversed screws etc. Do I get an award?

Wasn't even a big roll either...

I've not run the car a lot or had any really big offs but managed to get through 2 x Front shock towers (inc 1 LA216B), 1 x Rear shock tower, 1 x Chassis and 1 x Rear Wishbone
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How does kyosho Europe justify the cost of brg100 ???

Kyosho stands for maximum profit!!![/QUOTE] LOL


So just to let you know firstly we sell Kits at next to no profit. this is because they would be too Expensive if we made normal mark up.
So if you think we are making maximum profit im sorry but we are not.

Bearings are available in a big range of qualities and prices. Again kyosho only use the best.
I am sure you could shop around and get top quailty bearings cheaper but you would need to get some quantity.
There is a chart for bearings i used to use when ordering in my engineering days. I am sure Roger could help out here

Its up to you if you want to use some cheap bearings there are places you can use like http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/. You will Save yourself some money, just make sure to change them regular as they will wear and dont expect them to be as free running.

I think its important that anyone Running Kyosho understands its not the cheapest but it will rarely dissapoint you. Its like women
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How does kyosho Europe justify the cost of brg100 ???

Kyosho stands for maximum profit!!!
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So just to let you know firstly we sell Kits at next to no profit. this is because they would be too Expensive if we made normal mark up.
So if you think we are making maximum profit im sorry but we are not.

Bearings are available in a big range of qualities and prices. Again kyosho only use the best.
I am sure you could shop around and get top quailty bearings cheaper but you would need to get some quantity.
There is a chart for bearings i used to use when ordering in my engineering days. I am sure Roger could help out here

Its up to you if you want to use some cheap bearings there are places you can use like http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/. You will Save yourself some money, just make sure to change them regular as they will wear and dont expect them to be as free running.

I think its important that anyone Running Kyosho understands its not the cheapest but it will rarely dissapoint you. Its like women [/QUOTE]

You haven't met my wife neil nothing cheap about her and never fails to disappoint

Don't get me wrong I love my laser it's quality since getting in to rc I've had every version from comp kit to sp to fs to My current fs2 the only dissapointing bit is the huge tree of crap you get when you only need 1 part as I've pointed out previouslly in this thread.

As for balls I do buy them in 500's thrusts 1000's diffs I also understand the grading of them (my cousin works for nsk) so if you need any Neil don't hesitate to ask I'll just charge you double their worth if you want quality you won't mind paying
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Budfish LOL.

My wife is cheap and cheerful good value i would say

As for Bearings it seems you dont need to worry!! the ones form Kyosho as i saw once are normally 1st or second in the grading chart. Your cousin can get some great prices for sure.

Again sorry about the plastic sprue thing not sure why you doing so many? maybe you put an option shock tower on and thats made the holder the weakest part??
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i think the ones that rip you off are the ones that have a known problem or weak spot,then for some reason are more exspencive than bits that dont brake,

i never had an issue with the diff on the losi that needed changing,i chose to as id not broken anything on the 22 and my filtered slush fund was getting noisy........iv never had so much since getting rid of the shoemaker
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Toby ... wow .... more than I've done in 2 seasons, never done a ZX5 chassis! Not sure how your doing that as your a damn decent driver. Next time I see you I'll go over the car with you and we'll get it perfect in the reliability stakes.

reg .... absolutely I couldn't agree more. Kyosho always listen to the racers and if there is an improvement they release it to the public ASAP. Only issue with that is you then get the people who say "too many updates .... money making scheme" when in reality it's just a company who wants it's customers to have the best.

But back to the spares issue, I honestly don't break things and I'm hard on my cars and rarely give them maintanance as I simply don't have the time and they don't need it. When I have something go wrong it's usually something like a ball joint, bearing or screw that I knew was on it's last legs but had put off changing for months.

If I can help you bullet proof your car I will do, as I say pm me with what your breaking and how the car is built up (options etc.) and I will advise the best I can.
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I was hoping kyosho put their prices up it sounds wierd i know but i think it would price some of the cheap arse fools out of the kyosho brand and send them to ansmann.Its like centre parks and butlins cos centre parks is expensive all the holiday makers are respectable,but butlins is cheap so you get loads of noisy fat pissed up fools like budfish thereit ruins your holiday!!!!
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I was hoping kyosho put their prices up it sounds wierd i know but i think it would price some of the cheap arse fools out of the kyosho brand and send them to ansmann.Its like centre parks and butlins cos centre parks is expensive all the holiday makers are respectable,but butlins is cheap so you get loads of noisy fat pissed up fools like budfish thereit ruins your holiday!!!!
I've been to centreparcs I doubt you have weasel!!!infact your definition of a holiday is a week off work and to spend the odd day in blackpool!!! I'm choked for you
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I've been to centreparcs I doubt you have weasel!!!infact your definition of a holiday is a week off work and to spend the odd day in blackpool!!! I'm choked for you
dont be choked for me weasle when your definition of a holiday is to drag an owd caravan about
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I broke one at Eastrax on Sunday - and this is with the reversed screws etc. Do I get an award?

Wasn't even a big roll either...

I've not run the car a lot or had any really big offs but managed to get through 2 x Front shock towers (inc 1 LA216B), 1 x Rear shock tower, 1 x Chassis and 1 x Rear Wishbone
I've broke every part of my fs2 apart from diff outdrives, drive shafts, servo saver/steering rack and the ally bits!!!
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dont be choked for me weasle when your definition of a holiday is to drag an owd caravan about
Your confussing mine with woodys mine was a gem his owd!!
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I've broke every part of my fs2 apart from diff outdrives, drive shafts, servo saver/steering rack and the ally bits!!!
ill vouch for that lol,what about the time you broke 4 shock towers in 1 meeting 1 in every round
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Technically Buds didn't break them, it was everyone ramming his car deliberately because it was so fragile it was bound to DNF.....


Anyway, Yokomo spares are the same. The most likely to break parts are the front shock tower, and the front gearbox housing and both come bundled with the rear equivalent. Most Yoke owner have a box of rear tower and housings!

Its down to the difference between making kits and making parts. Some companies will say just have a mold of front shock towers - nothing else, and another of rears etc. Only smaller bits come on sprues. This is great if you need to make a lot of towers, but much more difficult for making whole kits.
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Budfish, if you don't like it, change cars. Otherwise, suck it up. It's the price you pay for having the car you so clearly love. It won't change!

I like Keith Bontrager's (mountain bike pioneer) design philosophy:

Strong, light, cheap - pick two.

You need to find a part that breaks less and satisfies one of the other criteria! Bear in mind if it's strong and light it won't be cheap, and if it's strong and cheap it won't be light!!

(Neil, as an aside, some manufacturers will mould the whole tree, trim off the parts that don't sell, and then put them back in the grinder and re-feed them to the moulding machine. Kyosho clearly don't do that, but it is an option. HTH )
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Budfish, if you don't like it, change cars. Otherwise, suck it up. It's the price you pay for having the car you so clearly love. It won't change!

I like Keith Bontrager's (mountain bike pioneer) design philosophy:

Strong, light, cheap - pick two.

You need to find a part that breaks less and satisfies one of the other criteria! Bear in mind if it's strong and light it won't be cheap, and if it's strong and cheap it won't be light!!

(Neil, as an aside, some manufacturers will mould the whole tree, trim off the parts that don't sell, and then put them back in the grinder and re-feed them to the moulding machine. Kyosho clearly don't do that, but it is an option. HTH )
Your right mate I do love my laser I think I did prefer my fs to the fs2 don't know why but I was a hell of alot faster with it. The fs2 would turn up it's own arse if you wanted it's a great car untill you put it on it's roof then it breaks I think it's the angle of the shock tower being so upright it just digs in and breaks!!
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lol sell it get a new car schumacher losi etc stop moaning!
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lol sell it get a new car schumacher losi etc stop moaning!
Listen your from Barnsley you keep on standing in the dole queue you inbreed arsehole and stop f**king your dog Prick!!
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Listen your from Barnsley you keep on standing in the dole queue you inbreed Muslim arsehole and stop f**king your dog Prick!!
lmfao!!!!! you penis
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I'm racing the FS for half a year now and I must say the quality of the cars is really good. The build is very good (no Losi-like predrilling needed) and the durability is the main reason I like them car.

I gave 2WD a new try this year starting with the 22 as I really (used to) like the Losi cars. The 22 really let me down on quality and performance so I decided to change and choose Kyosho. Really happy with that one as well.

Must admit the prices are a bit high (in particular the big bore springs indeed ). I really can't imagine dealers are ripping us off as they would probably sell more cars when prices are lower. It must be the high production cost resulting in higher prices.
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Listen your from Barnsley you keep on standing in the dole queue you inbreed Muslim arsehole and stop f**king your dog Prick!!
look just because you like doing your dog doesnt mean other people do!

your only moaning cause you dont have much money left go buy your heroin with!

p.s inbreed dont think so im not from rochdale!
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