What Is the best f1

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Originally Posted by ch!3f

whats wrong with an f102?had a few nice smashes with mine never broken it n its about 20years old. fair enough parts can be hard to come buy but you need the part numbers to get them and you may have to order from hk

also whats the crack with people on oople fair enough most of the advice is good but telling people not to buy something basicly because they dont like it.

Nothings wrong with the F102, personally my favourite F1 has always been my F102 after having put 8 years of development into mine while racing in the 90s there's nothing that can beat it. If it wasn't for the fact that if I break anything on it I can be waiting weeks or months for parts to pop up on ebay I would still be racing it and only retired it and replaced it with an F103 around 99/00 when spares dried up. You have just assumed I don't like it because I didn't recommend it without actually knowing what I thought of it.

Whether yours or mine has broken or not is irrelevant as that doesn't cover everyone else's experience, for example I've gone through loads of front end parts on my F109 while others at my club have had no breakages at all. With the F102 you are talking about a car and spares that are at least 18 years old so there's no guarantee that they are as durable as brand new parts for current cars as the polycarbonate the plastic parts are made from degrades over time due to UV radiation, which means they will only be as tough as they were 18 years ago if they have been kept in the dark all this time. Several spares (but not all) are only available from UK ebay vintage parts sellers as Tamiya haven't made them for at least 15 years, but if you are racing an F102 unless you want to stockpile parts now there's no guarantee those parts will still be around if you break them in future. You also can't easily get an alloy motor mount for it which is an essential part.
There's also the fact that the F103 battery retainers are so much more convenient than strapping the pack into the F102, mine got to the stage that I had to use lots of velcro to keep the pack in the car.
If someone wants to buy an F102 then I'm not going to tell them not to, but I would rather they know what problems they will encounter so they can make an informed decision.

so hes not saying dont get an f102 then because a couple of people cant get theres fixed even thought the front end is compatible with the f101?

most of what people say is good advice but then you get people who jump the gun and start telling people the stuff there looking at getting is crap and you need to be getting top of the range stuff to be competitive which to be honest is aload of crap it helps but if you cant drive your just going to p!ss people off smashing them off the track all the time cause thats all they will be doing.

If there's one thing I'm known for it's giving good impartial advice, and you will notice I haven't said anywhere that any car is "a load of crap". All I have listed are the good and bad points of each model.

Recommending a car that's been out of production for 18 years isn't a sensible thing to do, even though I do think it's the best handling F1 out of the 7 F1 cars I have.

Grimidol asked what is the best, so that's a choice between the Exotek, TF125 and Transformula, and if he wants to choose what's the best then I have said what they are, while also pointing out they are only great as long as you don't break anything on them. I then go on to recommend choosing between an F103 or an F109 which is the sensible choice. If you reread what I wrote I stated clearly that whether you choose an F103, F104 or F109 you will end up with similar performance, and none is particularly better than the others, so choose whichever you fancy as no one can claim any of them is significantly better than the others.

The one thing I would never do is the old "I've got one of these so you should get one as well" which is so prevalent these days.

Saying all that, if someone is wanting to run in the GP1 brushless class at the BRCA nationals then they are going to have to buy an F104.