CAT SX2 vs. Durango DEX410

[telboy]

Originally Posted by gazhillAE

On the car are you talking about?

Tighten them up then next time! Never had a problem!

Replace your NUTS evry few meetings i do!

Gazz, my nuts are always fresh.

The problem is, if you tighten them up to much, it ruins the bearings and crunch spacers, I had to keep replacing the crunch spacer on my rango, and replace the bearings twice.


So far on the CAT, had no need to over tighten the nuts, and never had one even come loose never mind drop off.

[dpackster1980]

Telboy, that issue was only with the 2009 car with the alloy crush tubes. The 2010 car doesn't have that problem.

I like the look of the SX2 but they aren't maintence free like the durango. They look good on the rough stuff with the big bores.

The only time you can make a true comparison is when the durango gets the big bores.

Schumacher spares are more expensive than durango's as well.

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Originally Posted by mattb

youve just hit the nail on the head mate!! your join dates 2010 and youre on your 3rd car!!

Just because i joined the oople site in 2010 doesn't mean i only started racing in 2010. lol That's very presumptous of you!

[Big G]

I never had the wheel nuts come undone on the cat with core RC nuts or the durango with the kit ones.

I sold my cat because I was tired of it eating gears (although resolved with more cost and metal gears), it eating belts at £7.99 a go, I found it broke wishbones quite easily, I hated the mesh mech also. I also found the parts were more expensive than other cars. Schumacher could of done themselves a lot of favours by making a shell which went all the way down the sides so it didn't look silly without an undertray

I've only run the durango 4 club nights so far and getting on really well with it. It feels great to drive on polish floor and carpet and jumps amazingly. I haven't done a lot with the setup yet as I've been getting great results out of the box and haven't broken anything yet lol

I don't find it ultra agressive at all. it's nice to drive and the geared diffs are a joy. I found once you tried to ajust the cat diffs they started falling apart all the time

[Chris119]

I found the Durango to work better in the dirt but yes when the track got whooped out it did get quite squirly. I took the sway bars off, softened the springs and it helped quite a bit. I dont know I just can't seem to keep it from traction rolling on carpet.
This is all great info since I am trying to avoid trading one set of problems for another. The Cat does sound tempting.

[mattb]

Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson

Just because i joined the oople site in 2010 doesn't mean i only started racing in 2010. lol That's very presumptous of you!

ha ha stop making excuses up lol

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Originally Posted by mattb

ha ha stop making excuses up lol

I first started racing when i was 8 Years old, im now 24!

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by racingdwarf

Quite intresting this, I thought this was going to be an instant ream of posts raving on about durango,But I'm wrong (as normal)Seems that after people have got over the bling,they are not so sold on the dingo. very handy as I am looking for a second hand car for next month and the cat is climbing the list

Dave, it could just be that those of us who are very happy Durango owners, just haven't replied to this, since it's in the Schumacher section, your always going to get people prefering the CAT over the DEX, if it was posted in the Durango section, the replys would be very different

For me, I couldn't be happier with the DEX, it's easily the best I've had since my old XX4 days in '97-2002.

I'm not sure why people are saying it's hard to drive, but can only blame the set-up, as mine has been great since the first race, with a guess of a set-up, since then I've just tweeked it a little here and there. I'll soon be 41, so it's not like I'm a young pup with super fast reactions either

Wheels nuts coming off, had that at one meeting last year, front wheel came off two races on the trot, seems that I'd overtightened the wheel nut, and squashed the wheel a little, put a different wheel on, and it was fine since.

Oh, the "bling factor" never wears off

[JohnM]

Originally Posted by Chris119

I dont know I just can't seem to keep it from traction rolling on carpet.

Chris, have you tried cutting rows of spikes off of the tyres? if you look at some of the pictures from the PetitRC race, some people had almost bald tyres on.

Is there someone else with a DEX where you race that could help you with se-ups?

[deepdale11]

I love my Durango........simples!!

[mikeyscott]

Originally Posted by deepdale11

I love my Durango........simples!!

Me too and looking forward to learning the car more. I loved my SX too

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

I loved my Durango too! ... Untill i had a play with the CAT SXII

[petti7676]

well i own and race both of these cars so in my opinion its hourses 4 courses if im running @ a new track i tend use the 410 as its pretty much bullet profe then i try the cat and normally go quite a bit faster like the last meetin i went 2 i was about a lap faster with my cat tbh i like both cars i just cant drive the 410 anywhere near as fast as the cat

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Originally Posted by petti7676

well i own and race both of these cars so in my opinion its hourses 4 courses if im running @ a new track i tend use the 410 as its pretty much bullet profe then i try the cat and normally go quite a bit faster like the last meetin i went 2 i was about a lap faster with my cat tbh i like both cars i just cant drive the 410 anywhere near as fast as the cat

1 lap 15 secs actually mate

If you had used the CAT the whole day, you would have been in the higher final!

[tiny tom]

I am not slagging of schumacher, but I got the sx2 when it come out. It lasted 1 race meeting when the shock shafts went silver and had metal bits in the shock. And had to replace the bearings because the kits ones fell a part. The steering rack broke going over a table top, melted pullys, spur gears and idel gears, diffs losing off after 1 run. It came to a head when I was at the 345's last year and my diff went 2 mins into a run and come lose, and in the final I melt the spur gear 3 mins into my final.
But I couldn't under stand why the car was breaking down when team drivers was looking over my shoulder and helping with the car?
Since then I had a durango'r' for one race and the front drive shaft came loose in my final, but that was down to my build quailty. The cat I found it is a high maintance car and problematic

[Chris119]

Originally Posted by JohnM

Chris, have you tried cutting rows of spikes off of the tyres? if you look at some of the pictures from the PetitRC race, some people had almost bald tyres on.

Is there someone else with a DEX where you race that could help you with se-ups?

Yeah I took a row out of each side of the rear and two rows off the outside front and one on the inside. Mini pins yellow.

There are only 2 other guys with the car, one of which sold it to me as spares haha. He got tired of breakage. Seems it was on the shelf more than on the track.

[gazhillAE]

Originally Posted by Big G

I never had the wheel nuts come undone on the cat with core RC nuts or the durango with the kit ones.

I sold my cat because I was tired of it eating gears (although resolved with more cost and metal gears), it eating belts at £7.99 a go, I found it broke wishbones quite easily, I hated the mesh mech also. I also found the parts were more expensive than other cars. Schumacher could of done themselves a lot of favours by making a shell which went all the way down the sides so it didn't look silly without an undertray

I've only run the durango 4 club nights so far and getting on really well with it. It feels great to drive on polish floor and carpet and jumps amazingly. I haven't done a lot with the setup yet as I've been getting great results out of the box and haven't broken anything yet lol

I don't find it ultra agressive at all. it's nice to drive and the geared diffs are a joy. I found once you tried to ajust the cat diffs they started falling apart all the time

Sorry to hear youve got rid of the best car and im also sorry to hear about the problems you had with it! Never seen you drive or going to question your driving but personally with nearly 1 year under the belt at shumacher ive melted one gear (very very hot day on grass and that gear had been ran for months), broke one front wishbone, one rear hub, one belt snapped and bent one shock shaft, and broke one shock tower! I personally dont think thats bad for one year with the car!

With regards to the diffs, no problems with the cat or cougar where some people have moaned from day one, mine was one of the very first cars and ive added to it with the new mods from the team and its never gone wrong in anyway people complain about! Best 2wd ive had!

Wouldnt have a durango is anyone gave me one and i certainly wouldnt have something with those stupid oil filled diffs!!!

Enjoy

[fastinfastout]

Originally Posted by gazhillAE

Wouldnt have a durango is anyone gave me one and i certainly wouldnt have something with those stupid oil filled diffs!!!

Enjoy

the stupid oil filled diffs is one of the cars great features, why it accelerates better than any other car, and there is no other car that has the jumping capabilities as this stupid durango. Go bash a world champ! There is a reason why gear diffs are becoming more popular now. Have a look at onroad, do you know anyone who has a ball diff anymore?

[Chris119]

Would be nice if those gear diffs last more than 2 races and didn't munch themselves.

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Or dump out the oil whenever it feels like it! My CAT accelerates quicker and smoother than my durango ever did! And as far as jumping is concerned, the CAT is easily the best balanced and most stable.