Old Proto 4WD

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe

Just to clarify, the BJ4 had much more in common with the B4 than it did the TC3, only the front and rear gearbox's came from the touring car

The point Apexspeed is making is that the BJ4, and the TC3'O' and Durango cars, were all based on the TC3 with a modified TC3 drivetrain, rear motor and stick pack battery layout like the TC3, with a mix of B4 and XX4 suspension parts. At the time of the release of these TC3 conversions all competition buggy chassis on the market were belt drive.

The first modern shaft drive 4wd buggies from 5 years ago look a lot more like a wide TC3 than their current versions.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

The point Apexspeed is making is that the BJ4, and the TC3'O' and Durango cars, were all based on the TC3 with a modified TC3 drivetrain, rear motor and stick pack battery layout like the TC3, with a mix of B4 and XX4 suspension parts. At the time of the release of these TC3 conversions all competition buggy chassis on the market were belt drive.

The first modern shaft drive 4wd buggies from 5 years ago look a lot more like a wide TC3 than their current versions.

Predator?

[Richard Lowe]

Originally Posted by Northy

Predator?

Tamiya Egress (89?) had a motor at the back and stick pack down the side a few years before the Pred, was there anything before that that did? When was the first Predator released?

Originally Posted by terry.sc

...these TC3 conversions...

The TC3 'O' was a conversion as it used the TC3 chassis/shock towers/inner arm mounts ect but bolted stuff on to extend them, the BJ4 was a bespoke kit. As there were at least as many B4 parts in it as there were TC3 parts you could say it was more of a 4wd conversion for a B4.

[E-Dog]

The TC3 'O' was a conversion as it used the TC3 chassis/shock towers/inner arm mounts ect but bolted stuff on to extend them, the BJ4 was a bespoke kit. As there were at least as many B4 parts in it as there were TC3 parts you could say it was more of a 4wd conversion for a B4.[/QUOTE]

I agree (I had the original bj4), The Bj4 had Most of the b4's suspension with the shaft and gearboxes from the tc3 and i think the actual diffs where from the "NTC3" No ?

But the chassis and bulkheads where all JConcepts and designed specifecly for offroad, I think they were spot on

[Northy]

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe

Tamiya Egress (89?) had a motor at the back and stick pack down the side a few years before the Pred, was there anything before that that did? When was the first Predator released?

I nearly fell for that tray Rich, but read what Terry typed:

Originally Posted by terry.sc

The point Apexspeed is making is that the BJ4, and the TC3'O' and Durango cars, were all based on the TC3 with a modified TC3 drivetrain, rear motor and stick pack battery layout like the TC3, with a mix of B4 and XX4 suspension parts. At the time of the release of these TC3 conversions all competition buggy chassis on the market were belt drive.

The first modern shaft drive 4wd buggies from 5 years ago look a lot more like a wide TC3 than their current versions.

Pred

[peetbee]

Originally Posted by Northy

Predator?

Terry did say 'modern shaft drive 4wd buggies' G, the pred had been around for 11 years by then!

[Northy]

He said:

"At the time of the release of these TC3 conversions all competition buggy chassis on the market were belt drive."

I said Predator

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by Northy

He said:

"At the time of the release of these TC3 conversions all competition buggy chassis on the market were belt drive."

I said Predator

Which Predator was for sale in 2003 when these buggies came out? The X10 didn't see production until 2005.

[lochness42]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

Which Predator was for sale in 2003 when these buggies came out? The X10 didn't see production until 2005.

Are you serious? Predator was on market long time before. They were ran back in 90's.

[Stu]

Pav-man, I think Terry was suggesting that the P8 was not being pushed by T-Tech in that year.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by lochness42

Are you serious? Predator was on market long time before. They were ran back in 90's.

As you say, they were run in the 90s. In 2003 Tenth Technology wasn't around to buy Predators from as the company was closed in February 2000, Richard Weatherley was busy running Centre Point Distribution importing Xrays instead.

[lochness42]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

As you say, they were run in the 90s. In 2003 Tenth Technology wasn't around to buy Predators from as the company was closed in February 2000, Richard Weatherley was busy running Centre Point Distribution importing Xrays instead.

Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that. Anyway I simply misunderstood you when I saw your post for first time. Thanks for clarification.