New National F Rating?

[Lee Martin]

Originally Posted by millzy

would us normal people be able to keep up with the team drivers that have the cells motors and tyre support to make sure they make the top 10 ? would there be any point is us trying to get and F1?

i think it would come down to the same 8 making f1 and the other 2 places being a fight between the rest of the good f1s

Since when did we need cells and faster batts in off road!!!

not a valid reason at all. they are over powered now.

tyres....we all have to buy em.

[millzy]

we dont need to be faster my point is there is a gap between what you top lads have and what us regional lads have.

if there was a 10 place cut off and there are 40+ of you fighting for it, you telling me that your going to run any old shit in your car and hope for the best, no your gonig to want the best for AE and novak to make sure your up there.


the tyre line is bollox and you know it( maybe not for you but others)

[Lee Martin]

wouldnt u want tht anyway...u dnt need new stuff...just well prepared stuff...

i had to come through the ranks, as did everyone...

[Wraggy]

Millzy , i agree with Lee on the Motors and Batts ....
what we use now is as good as what the team run ..
15 yeasrs ago it was a different story , but in todays market i personally feel we get as good as they do...

[bigred5765]

true but, if Ur just outside that top ten elitist group for 2-3 years would it really be worth keep trying, i think some people would bow out, and make it less interesting, theres people that made it last year that aren't there this year so at the bottom of the pile, a nice little niece for us mere mortals to look forward to,after all most people aims at national is to get to f1 if its out of our reach IE u have to be top ten why even bother,

[Chris Doughty]

think of it on the other side...

if you well inside F1 each year but not managing to get A finals then whats the point in bothering?

[Lee Martin]

so why dont we just give everyone that does a national a F1...........

if u want it to be easy may as well go the whole way...

[Lee Martin]

and surely!!! you race for fun...not just to get F1 but each days racing is a new challenge.....

so you get F2 and not F1...does that mean the season is not good anymore...

it will be harder to get F2...so maybe concerntrate on that!

[Chris Doughty]

I am with Lee on this.

its just the numbers that will change, F2 will become the same 'hardness' to acheive as F1 is right now.

its just those people that that are right in the middle of F1 are in limbo, now they get the chance to go for 'new' F1

and also agree with Lee, everyone should go racing to have fun,

[millzy]

not jumping ship but i took time to think about what lee said and came to the conclusion thats chris said, under lees propsed rule change on licence grades a few of us might never make f1`, but it would make the f2 we have worth so much more and not just a didnt make it grade.

[Body Paint]

I have to disagree with you there Chris, if you randomly make an A by being in a low heat and catching the correct whether you could be an F1 and struggle to make the B at every other meeting.

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

how many people made at least 1 A final this year?

maybe F1 should be attained if you make an A final during the year?

I do think the bar is set too low though, for example, I made 3 C finals and 1 B final in 2wd and came 23rd and in 4wd I had 4 B finals and came 19th

I think I have done just enough to earn an F1 License this year so maybe the cut off should be 25 or even 20? I think that you should really have to have a good season to earn an F1.

As Pidge says, it would also make gaining an F2 license more of an acheivement and raise the level of the F2 grade.

Maybe the trophies given at the last National to the top 25 should be presented to commemerate the F1 license grade?

[Chris Doughty]

that is the ONLY problem that I see with the rule is that peoples perceptions that they used to be an F1 and they are now an F2. the fact is they are just as good, its just the name of the classification has changed.

[Chris Doughty]

Craig - I think I agree too, I just thought I would put out that idea for people to debate...

how about a 'Star' if you make an A??

F1* or F3*

or if your Mark Stanly - F5*

[Body Paint]

PIDGE: Out of interest what is your proposal for the AGM?

[matdodd]

So What have you put forward then Lee?
Id say something like top 20 F1 21-50 F2!

[Body Paint]

See your point there Chris..

Maybe scrap the F grades all together and call it something else? Or is that a bit too radical.

What about an A to Z grade based on your average final thoughout the national season?

IE. I scored 4 B finals therefore I would have a B grade license

[matdodd]

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net

or if your Mark Stanly - F5*

What a Legend!

[Lee Martin]

i put in a rule. which i though was quite funky...but may not be to everyones liking.

i think top 15 should be F1. then the top 5 at F2's gets an F1 grade.
also top 5 at F3's gets F2.

this will make 20 F1's and also give the end of season finals a real meaning. rather than just a one off meeting.

making them alot more popular and giving people the chance to prove themselves of the national scene.

what you all think?

lee

[Chris Doughty]

I am supporting Lee's rule.

but the AGM is open to adjustment of proposed rules from what I understand, so I think its open for discussion, but I like Lee's idea.

[Lee Martin]

cheers man.

yeh please...looking for everyones views on it...

obviously it cant come into place this year. but would be for next year.