ANYONE INTERESTED?

[lazerboy]

Or maybe a 15 turn class? good mix of torque and rpm. I think it would be even better if everyone had to use the same motor.

[xx4-nutter]

Originally Posted by AndyM

Ben Riley is awesome on his brakes coming off a straight. hes stupid quick

haha my hero ! lol

[ashleyb4]

19turn class the motor has to be comercially abailable at the time 6 nimh or nicad cells. full brca rules.

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[tc2k]

Originally Posted by josh_smaxx

I find it fun flying down the straight going past much slower cars really close to them, makes your heart skip a beat

What the hells wrong with your heart.

Problem with a stock class is people would resort to the best cells and gear the motors for high speed but lots of wear so inevitably the people with money would get an advantage.

[xx4-nutter]

ignor me lol , post deleted lol





GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE !

[josh_smaxx]

Originally Posted by tc2k

What the hells wrong with your heart.

Problem with a stock class is people would resort to the best cells and gear the motors for high speed but lots of wear so inevitably the people with money would get an advantage.

Nothings wrong with my heart, just find it fun

[ashleyb4]

I agree sometimes it does get a little hair raising.

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[Chris Doughty]

I am sorry, but the guy with the lowest turn motor or highest voltage cells is never the reason for them winning in off-road.

anyone can get a 3.5 sintered brushless motor and some good cells and it would be insanely fast, if that person was able to get it round the track and win with it then I would happily pay homage to them.

even in 4WD on our UK high grip tracks we run 5.5 bonded motors at max, at southport I put in a 4.5 sintered and I don't think I went round the track any faster, it was way too fierce! and it was a wild ride down the straight

[tc2k]

Yes thats right, but with 27turn stock, you could do with the extra speed and I was saying the idea it would be cheaper isnt realistic as people will try squeezing every ounce of speed out of the motors by any means

[lazerboy]

Maybe a t-spec like offroad class would work?







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[millzy]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

Kiddy you would its not that long.

The one thing about quick motors is coming to the end of the straight and seeing who breaks the earliest and who gets the inside line into the corner i love high speed overtaking moves into the corner after the straight. I agree it would be good for beginers as a local series to me runs a 19t 2wd class at the border county league and its good for begginers i used to do it but stopped now.

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dude i made a D final at tivy national and held off Paul robbingson and Matt Hodington for 5 mins with 19t in my b4

also made a D final with the xxx4 at Batley runnig a 19t motor

both tracks where megga long, Tivy was Euros style that year. we geard around 82/78 in the rrci 19t class Ken Reith and I where never slow in it, and southport didnt feel like we where wainitng for a bus down the flat long striaght

[burgie]

Southport RCC used to run a 19t "spec" class.

The average lap times for the top drivers around our track with a 19t in a 2wd was around 26 seconds. 4 seconds slower than when they are running 9t silly motors, so they are not exactly slow.

The series was well attended and popular with the club members until the "brushless revolution". Nobody runs that class anymore!

All that happens when you introduce a limited class, such as stock class, is that the cost of racing goes up as people who are taking part look for that extra edge over the competition.

[ashleyb4]

I know whatyoumean millzy with 2wd i often use a 19t in my 2wd i still keep with drivers using mosifieds or if not beat them.

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[AndyF]

Well I think it would be good.

The thing that made me leave a sport I loved when I was in my early teens was Batley moving away from 27T stock to anything goes. If you don't have a class that is affordable for new comers and the young then you will eventually be left with nobody that is interested.

Some of you are complaining it would be too slow. Well don't enter this class and leave it for those who are new to the sport. Not everybody will have the skill (or the modesty!) to run at 2 zillion miles an hour the first time they put their car on the grid.

I agree that putting a supper expensive motor into a car wont help a poor driver win. But two drivers of equal ability could be devided by thier bank balance.

[lazerboy]

that's why tracks need to keep their mod class, and do exactly what they do with tc's, and add a 19 or stock class. I would LOVE to have a t-spec class in off road. If you don't know what that is, it's where a company took this idea, made a car and said you car race it if you don't modify it, and you use the same motor, battery, and even body as everyone else. So basically everyone was racing the same cars with a few small tuning thingies. sounds great for offroad.

[Chris Doughty]

reading in on some threads about TC dying in the UK everyone seems to think its because there are too many classes. they are sugesting things like put everyone into Mod TC for nationals.

thats how we do it and it works really well for nationals, as Millz has said, you can still run 19t equiv motors and get good scores.

club racing rules and specs should be whatever is best locally supported I believe.

I don't think there is scope for a 'low cost' national series, the whole point of low cost series is low cost, why would people want to travel around the country costing them a fortune?

[lazerboy]

i'm not saying to have a nationals class. if your good enough to make it to the nationals, then you don't need a budget car.

[mole2k]

We run 19t stock at our local club with buggys indoors, we've found modifieds to be not much quicker than the 19t aside from the less experienced people causing more damage to their cars when hitting them at higher speeds.

We actually run a 19t stock class and a 27t stock class for the beginners, I myself have ran a 27t stock against the 19t stock around our hall and there is very little difference. I never won overall but came 2nd on a number of occasions.

Slower motors dispite feeling a lot slower dont slow you down as much as you might think, modern 19t stocks are great.