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Its just not worth spending any more cash on Nick. The equivalent of fitting a Ford Focus engine in an Austin Allegro

Go for a std sized tower for future flexibility if you want to upgrade in future. Some people like Dell, personally i dont. I can recommend someone if you want who builds to your budget/needs on Ebay.

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Thats not really enough it might fry the psu. Check the graphics card power specs
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changes the motherboard, processor, memory and graphics for £150
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changes the motherboard, processor, memory and graphics for £150
Do you mean £150 to upgrade those components on this machine? What about the PSU?

I just bought £50 worth of memory for it too which is gutting, hopefully it would be transferrable to a new machine?? Memory was

Qty: 4 CT657133
Part number: CT12864AA667
Price: £10.99 (EX. VAT)
Description: 1GB, 240-pin DIMM Upgrade for a Dell OptiPlex GX280 (Desktop and Mini-tower Models) System
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where did you buy it?? strewth, I just put a mobo, cpu, cooler and 1gig of mem, and that was £81, PSU on top was £13
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try www.novatech.co.uk or www.aria.co.uk or www.yoyotech.com or www.microdirect.co.uk
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where did you buy it?? strewth, I just put a mobo, cpu, cooler and 1gig of mem, and that was £81, PSU on top was £13

That was Crucial memory, was cheaper then on Ebuyer surprisingly too!
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I can almost 100% confirm that the psu in the optiplex will not have the power connector for the PCIe gfx card and will not have enough grunt to power it anyway. I'm not 100% on modern gfx cards, nor am I 100% on modern games (! am not a gamer) but I have worked with a lot of dells and those model optiplex are pretty old (by PC standards). You may be able to find a half-height gfx card that doesn't need the extra power connector, but I have to concur with the other advice offered. If your serious about gaming, you need a serious games machine
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I can almost 100% confirm that the psu in the optiplex will not have the power connector for the PCIe gfx card and will not have enough grunt to power it anyway. I'm not 100% on modern gfx cards, nor am I 100% on modern games (! am not a gamer) but I have worked with a lot of dells and those model optiplex are pretty old (by PC standards). You may be able to find a half-height gfx card that doesn't need the extra power connector, but I have to concur with the other advice offered. If your serious about gaming, you need a serious games machine
Definitely not "serious" about gaming with the Pc at all to be honest, this was the first game i actually bought to run on this machine but it won't work so not sure i can now justify replacing it or spending loads on upgrading it :-(

I thought the Memory was worth doing anyway and i honestly thought that's all i needed to get the game to run - the Graphics side of things should only matter for watching "Live" Matches which i really wouldn't bother doing anyway.
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Rich D - I had an experiement with water cooling, went well until I changed the RAM and hit the pipes, water went everywhere!
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Rich D - I had an experiement with water cooling, went well until I changed the RAM and hit the pipes, water went everywhere!

Not good ! lol

I water cooled mine primarily cos i wanted a silent system. Dont think i would bother again though tbh. I didn't go for a water cooled power supply as at the time they were horrendously expensive. Since then the PSU fans have started to rattle a bit so its as noisy as an air cooled system anyway now.

Its an overclocked Athlon64 skt 939 FX-60 @2.93ghz. Overclocked 7800 GTX GPU`s in SLI. In its day it was the nadgers - £600 just for the cpu but prices have fallen loads since then. I think the ram was over £200 second hand. Dated now but still quick enough to run everything but the latest games on max settings/full res 1680 x 1050

Back to the Dell - look on Ebay Nick for someone selling a second hand tower - shouldnt cost you an arm and a leg. Although it will most likely be cheaper to upgrade what you have got, your throwing good money after bad in my opinion. I got rid of a P4 system to build my current one and to be frank my current system is out of date.

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I thought the Memory was worth doing anyway and i honestly thought that's all i needed to get the game to run - the Graphics side of things should only matter for watching "Live" Matches which i really wouldn't bother doing anyway.
You can never have too much memory . It's a shame you can't turn off the 3d before running the game, sometimes you can edit the configuration manually. Might be worth checking out
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Nice build Rich here is mine only a few months old still ironning out a few creases.....




But i would do what pretty much everyone else ha said nick upgrade.

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Can someone please help??

I'm trying to run my recently installed Championship Manager 2010 but get an error message.

I came home today and upgraded my 512MB Memory to 4GB (Maximum for my PC) - The PC is a Dell Optiplex GX280 but when i start the game it says:

"Direct3D Failed to initialise - Please ensure you have a Direct3D compatible card and Driver. The game cannot continue and must close"

What do i do?? I have no idea what Card i have in my PC - is it just a driver issue or is my card likely to just not be up to the job??
Ask here... http://forums.bit-tech.net/
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Sounds to me like a number of things Nick...

From your previous posts, I would agree that it uses on board graphics chipset on the motherboard. This then shares the system memory (the 4GB you just upgraded to). If your running Vista, then this should be the minimum memory needed to run it! Nowadays, DELL stuff isn't proprietry (sp?) since tech peeps like myself complained bitterly about it.

IMO I would always try software stuff first, before splashing out on hardware.
New graphics cards also tend to need extra power through a molex connector, which from the sounds of it, your power supply cannot provide, since it is only 250W (you need really about 400w nowadays to do anything more than basic surfing/word docs/email etc....)

Rich D has made the most sense if you HAVE to play the game, buy a new tower, but if your not bothered that much, just get one of the new PS3 slim's! I gave up years ago buying PC games, because of the constant upgrade, driver, directX etc etc issues, which just became a PITA!

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Nice build Rich here is mine only a few months old still ironning out a few creases.....




But i would do what pretty much everyone else ha said nick upgrade.

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