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I don't think anyone can say Lewis is crap, i believe he is probably the best driver on the grid but it has been proven you need the full package to win a GP. Nobody wins with a crap car not even schumacher. People say he was in a mediocre car in the benetton but maybe it suited him, look at stoner in moto gp, is he a god and can ride something nobody else can or is it more the fact that the bike it built for his style
 Look at hamilton, he is constantly several places higher than his team mate this shows the talent coming through. We all know mclaren are weak right now, but he still manages to grab the odd point here and there.
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I think people are harsh on Piquet too though, he may not be the best, but he's nowhere near as bad as people make out. Fact is with Alonso not around he was bloody good that year testing for Renault, he didn't make it into f1 because of his name!
Lewis is good, probably great, but sorry, the best of all (Senna/Schu/older villeneuve/Alonso) still find a way to win the odd race in crap cars. I'm not saying Hamilton won't, in fact I think he will, but let's see the year play out and find out!
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i think its more to do with the shock of him being in a car that suits him because mclaren built around him. to a car that had to be totaly re designd to the new rules. maybe ig he had a brawn he would be poll all the time and winning. or maybe the new rule change has led him to not drive an F1 car very well...
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When the ferrari was crap he didn't win much in it and stuggled for pace (I'm talking right at the beginning of his ferrari career) ....until Ross Brawn got in on the act. Now, Senna....diffenrent story. He won in cars that shouldn't have even made it onto the grid! I would say ( as much as it pains me) that Alonso is the best driver on the grid at the mo, followed closely by Hamilton. But if the car is so bad that the other one is regularly qualifying near the back, then Hamilton is doing a pretty good job getting it into the mid field. Take a look at Schumi's and Sennas team mates in the past. most have been reasonably near to them on the grid, not 8-9 positions back. (with the exception of Micheal Andretti in the Mclaren in 1993....anyone for getting past the first lap? )
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Plus, when you look at the times in Q2 now, they're a LOT closer than last year. Last year the difference between the fastest and the slowest could be 3-4 seconds. Sometimes this year, the people going out in Q2 are only around 3-4 tenths off the fastest times. so technically on the same light fuel load Hamilton isn't that much slower. Its just that things are so much closr this year.
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I will say though that i much preferred the days of Mansell/Senna/Prost, especially Senna who was just so gifted it was scary. Anyone remember when he was team mates with Damon Hill in the Williams team, and managed to outqualify Hill by 1.4 seconds?
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And the rookie thing. Well, Hamilton probably isn't any faster now than then tbh. Flat out is flat out. And last year head wise if anything he was worse. This year could be the making of him though in terms of toughness!
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Nice to see everyone has their favourites - Bernie loves it that you all tune in to support your man!!
 Only one thing irks me - Schumacher... great... two words that should not be used in the same sentence. Never had a team mate anywhere near close to him, never allowed a fast team mate into the fold, made sure Rubens got sat on when teh car suited him better than Schumi, and most important of all, never left anything behind that changed F1. Anyone can rack up numbers by getting into the richest team and making them employ the best people on huge salaries. Great drivers raise the game - Stewart on safety and the business approach, Clark who raced with people who were his equal, Senna who was fitter and better prepared than anyone else, Prost who taught everyone how to win at the slowest possible speed, etc., etc. Schumacher... er... nope, can't think of anything save a bunch of numbers, including spending the most of any driver in any era to win. And, come to think of it, wasn't some fella called Brawn around for everyone of those titles, and isn't he around now... Maybe we should be praising Colin Chapman, Frank Gardner, John Barnard, Adrian Newey, Rory Byrne and Ross Brawn as they have more wins to their names than any driver ever?!! Roll on Monaco...
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Schumacher is the most successful F1 driver of all time, FACT - I don't believe anyone else will achieve the same level or amount of titles he did. Lewis has a chance being so young, as does Alonso if Renault get back to having a car good enough. I couldn't stand Michael when Hill was battling with him but the years that followed proved what a hero he is. Ferrari were scratching their heads and all but down and out of F1 until he joined. He turned the team around and changed the mentality of the whole team - That alone is a huge success story to leave behind. Look at how the team have dropped off since he left. The three guys that made that team were Michael, Jean Todt and Ross Brawn. No matter what you say, it's not possible to win a world title or loads of them without being a very VERY talented driver.
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No doubt Schumacher was one of the best but I don't think he was the greatest. I think there were too many drivers that were outstanding for different reasons and that each era of F1 has it's own one maybe two drivers that are superior in terms of driving style and off track commitment.
Still doesn't mean we can't argue over who we think is the best  Senna = my vote
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i dont think it should be greatest F1 driver. it should be greatest in F1.
and i think that should go to Ross Brawn. i dont need to tell you what he's done to F1 but no matter what challenge he gets, he concors it and i hope he is around for alot lot longor to make F1 THE greatest driving sport.
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Colin Chapman is the greatest. Essentially creating many of the elements that make up the dna of modern race cars. Brawn is obviously exceptional, and will make his own place in F1 history.
Senna is still my favourite driver, although I have always thought that Schumacher deserves his accolades, he was brilliant, even down to him having an unreasonable side, that made him do some rather unfair actions occasionally. There is no way that that man was a machine, he had the desire to win and the skill to match it. Hamilton is excellent, as is Alonso, they both have some way to go before they challenge Senna and Schumacher in my books, although Hamilton has shown that he just has the edge at the moment. BTW Rubens is my third favourite driver, when he is on fire he is untouchable. He is no doubt the greatest world champion that was never allowed to take the title.
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