Indoor Series 08/09 (Rnd 5)

[dpackster1980]

A deposit would work, it would have to be an reasonable dospit say £4.00 per round per class. I think that would be a real insentive for people to turn up at least then the club doesn't suffer too much.

Some people would suggest it's a bit steep but it will teach all the no shows a lesson.

[mattym0310]

Would it not be quite difficult though for giving the deposits back to those who do turn up??

[N7ELA]

Originally Posted by dpackster1980

A deposit would work, it would have to be an reasonable dospit say £4.00 per round per class. I think that would be a real insentive for people to turn up at least then the club doesn't suffer too much.

Some people would suggest it's a bit steep but it will teach all the no shows a lesson.

You cant even get a national entry paid without the help of other people. How would you get a regional one in....?????

[N7ELA]

Originally Posted by Adam Skelding

I wasn't present at Batley, so I can't comment on what was said or inferred. (I didn't enter the meeting, before anyone asks)

I agree to some extent on the booking in and not turning up issue. But, we'd have to be careful that any rule that is 'thought up', doesn't 'scare' people off from entering in the first place.

Two methods that work well are from the 1/8th and 1/10th National series, they are slightly different, but offer the same principle.

1/10th:
Enter for the series before a certain date. Deposit up front with a post-dated cheque for the balanc to be taken out at sometime later.
Refunded entries for non-shows only if you inform the organisers 2 weeks before the event.

This works well for a well attended series as places are usually in much shorter supply than demand.

1/8th:
Pay a deposit of £50 (via a post-dated cheque) which is refundable (torn-up)on completion of the rounds you enter. Basically if you don't turn up for meetings, they keep your deposit.

Obviously the £50 is way too steep for regionals. But a figure could be arrived at that is both reasonable and 'not worth loosing' if you get my drift.

Or another thought I had.
Artificially raise the entry fee to each event. By say £2. Everyone who books in online or in-advance pays the extra £2 event (booking fee) and then when you book-in on the day you get the extra £2 back. Drivers who only enter on the day pay the full amount including the £2 extra.

This way you book-in early and guarantee your spot to get 'Cheaper' racing or you turn up and take the risk and pay a bit more. Kinda like booking your ticket for a gig on-line.

These are only my thoughts.

Please pick holes in them, maybe we can find a 'solution' to the problem.

A good idea however there is no such thing as a post dated cheque. A post dated cheque will still cash and by writing one you are relying upon the person you give it to not to cash it before the marked date.

I like the book online and pay an extra £2 which you get back on the day idea. Worksop seems to work quite well with a saving of £2 for booking early.

What about paying £8 + charges online via paypal otherwise you have to pay £10 on the day.....?

[turbo_brick]

Originally Posted by N7ELA

What about paying £8 + charges online via paypal otherwise you have to pay £10 on the day.....?

What about people who either don't have paypal or internet access,

Don't take this the wrong way but imo your trying to find a solution to something that isn't really a problem, the only time it could cause a problem is if a club books a hall for extra time (which I'm led to believe is what happened at Batley) In which case we set times for the indoor regionals to run till, i.e first heat at 10am all finals finished by 4:30pm, then fit the number of rounds around that.

Peter

[dpackster1980]

Don't take this the wrong way but imo your trying to find a solution to something that isn't really a problem, the only time it could cause a problem is if a club books a hall for extra time (which I'm led to believe is what happened at Batley) In which case we set times for the indoor regionals to run till, i.e first heat at 10am all finals finished by 4:30pm, then fit the number of rounds around that.

Peter[/quote]

Sounds a good idea, if you could not fit 4 rounds in then really round by round qualifiying isn't going to work.

If you could only run say 3 rounds you have to change qualifiying to FTQ because I know I wouldn't be happy with round by round and I doubt if a majority of others would be either.

I didn't mean returnable deposits I meant you pay £4.00 for each round and class you want to book into. Then on the day you only pay another £4.00 (simple). If you don't turn up the £4.00 will go to the club running the event.

[dpackster1980]

Originally Posted by mattym0310

Would it not be quite difficult though for giving the deposits back to those who do turn up??

No you don't return the deposits just decuct them from the fee on the day so the racer only need to pay a further £4.00.

[N7ELA]

Originally Posted by turbo_brick

What about people who either don't have paypal or internet access,

Don't take this the wrong way but imo your trying to find a solution to something that isn't really a problem, the only time it could cause a problem is if a club books a hall for extra time (which I'm led to believe is what happened at Batley) In which case we set times for the indoor regionals to run till, i.e first heat at 10am all finals finished by 4:30pm, then fit the number of rounds around that.

Peter

If people dont have internet access then they cant book in online and not turn up causing this problem. And who doesn't have paypal........????

[Shifta]

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