Why all the 1/10 NAT tracks suited to the KF ?

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood

You say dirt.... It was anything but.
It was clay and sugared to hell!

And is still........dirt, Defo not high grip astro as the post which claims our drivers go to the worlds and race on dirt.

[Andywoods]

Originally Posted by Joe_K

Asking why the 1:10 Nat tracks are suited to the KF is like asking why all the F1 tracks suited the Red Bull last year. It's like saying Adrian Newey (and Schumacher Racing cars) are just lucky or that they've schemed to get the tracks to suit them.

The tracks don't suit the car - the car suits the tracks, and that's not by accident - it's because they want to win races, and if they win races, they sell kits.

Well said kf is best car out there at the moment schumacher have looked at the uk market and designed a car for it .

[Gavin Collingwood]

Originally Posted by mark christopher

And is still........dirt, Defo not high grip astro as the post which claims our drivers go to the worlds and race on dirt.

Some of the top drivers came back and said it was as grippy as high grip astro is my point. The cars were grip rolling.... On clay!

[Gavin Collingwood]

Originally Posted by Andywoods

Well said kf is best car out there at the moment schumacher have looked at the uk market and designed a car for it .

Don't think it nessesarily is the best car just from national results.... As I've said they have the biggest team so inevitably will have the most in the A

[SlowOne]

Originally Posted by lochness42

Well wasn't it similar story when mid motor cars came out - they were simply faster on high grip tracks than rear motor and many companies didn't have one for long time, now it's rather standard. I see more companies coming with fwd motor cars with the popularity of events such as EOS or PetitRC race which is often ran on high grip carpet.

Agreed, and it was a similar story back in the day when you didn't win without and RC10 on the low grip surfaces we raced on then. Horses for courses - well done Schumacher for seeing the trend and getting a car out that works on these tracks. It won't always be that way....

[DAVO]

I don't think the problem is the K1 it's great that SCHUMACKER have made such a good buggy for high grip. I think the problem is the fact that all the national tracks are practically the same, they are so consistent with each other the drivers prob don't even need to change there buggy set up from track to track let a lone tires they may as well race at the same track every meeting just with a different layout. It's like a touring car series

[Mowen208fly]

Having done all 3 rounds so far I really disagree with the above comment !!!! All 3 tracks have been very different and unless you have raced them all you wouldn't really know! Yes they are all green and have some astroturf on them but you still have to set the car up to suit them

[DAVO]

Originally Posted by Mowen208fly

Having done all 3 rounds so far I really disagree with the above comment !!!! All 3 tracks have been very different and unless you have raced them all you wouldn't really know! Yes they are all green and have some astroturf on them but you still have to set the car up to suit them

Your probably right but please don't think I'm slagging of the K1 or the tracks thAt have held the first 3 rounds. I just think Martin and Cragg etc have got it harder in 2wd as the buggys don't suit the tracks as much in the full series unless wet which is why I think more variation in tracks would be better series.i suppose you could say that's the other manufactures fault for not making a F motor car yet.

[hotrodchris]

Having raced the first two Nationals and been involved with the third i can state catigorically that all 3 tracks where totally different including the level of grip on the astro turf.
As said previosly Schumacher have more top drivers in the UK than other manufacturers, you could give the likes of Lee Martin a shoe box to race and due to his tallent he would beat most other drivers.
The finals both days at Torch were all very closely run races and Tom only own the 2wd by a second on countback.
There were also a lot of K1's in the lower finals so shows ability is more important than the car?

[fidspeed]

Originally Posted by DAVO

Your probably right but please don't think I'm slagging of the K1 or the tracks thAt have held the first 3 rounds. I just think Martin and Cragg etc have got it harder in 2wd as the buggys don't suit the tracks as much in the full series unless wet which is why I think more variation in tracks would be better series.i suppose you could say that's the other manufactures fault for not making a F motor car yet.

I think you have answered your own original post Davo

bit like in F1 this year where Mercedes have got the drop on everyone else so far this year they have the package the works the best on all tracks
its upto the others to catch, up not switch the tracks to handicap them

regards Dave fid

[PaulRotheram]

All i have to say to the original question... The KF simply rocks. Schumacher have delivered an amazing platform for the team to compete at the sharp end. Also the team is the strongest I have seen it in years - Tom, Simon, Bloomers, McGee, Nathan, and the rest are some very talented drivers!

[Danny Harrison]

I do wish id bought a motor foreward car too. I put another racers tm2 round rhr quicker than my own yokomo immediately.

The annoying part was how easy it felt, could beat my hot lap with it and could do it nearly every lap, with his radio......

Anyone wanna trade?

[cutting42]

I switched from a mid motor (X6 cubed) to an X6-S recently and have got a lot faster and more consistent. That is on an indoor carpet with only medium grip so there is more to the front/forward motor layout than ultra high grip.

I have had a couple of spins around Stotfold with it as well and you can really throw them around. Luv em!

[Dave Dodd]

imho astro is the way to go, as a club its easier to maintain and more like to still be one piece for many years, whereas grass would simply be worn out halfway through the day which then makes it a dirt track, providing its sunny otherwise its a mud bath as seen at our last regional

to run a national weekend i would need 2 totally separate tracks on different parts of our field, just to give drivers something to race on..

as said before with the amount of schuey drivers, even if they were to race on different surfaces suited to different chassis layouts, they simply use a different car as most of them will have a few, so will still end up in the top 10 or so..
drivers will always go for the fastest option, even if its a 4wd nat but 2wd is faster, they'll use 2wd..