Xcelorin Sensored Speedo Problems Help needed

[Garry Spice]

hi guys,so whats the story with these babies then? are they just not up to it? or is it just worth the extra and get a proper novak/lrp/nosram one?

[migsy]

hi mate. personally i'd say it's a poor effort from losi and they really need to sit and think this one over. i thought the novak GTB took the pi*s but losi went the extra mile i'd say.
just give me castle creations mamba max anytime.

all best..migsy.

[Darren Boyle]

Why do you say this? On what grounds.....

The return rate in relation to the number sold is lower then most other brands on the market currently

[spud31]

Darren TBH i work at a shop and of the 5 weve had in out last order 3 have gone back, with differing faults.
I do wonder if its a duff batch as mr coxall saya hes never had so many returned.

[Darren Boyle]

Yes BUT most of the ones that Ryan is getting back have not had faults on them, but have been setup or programming issues. When set up correctly and tested on the bench more than half those returned have proved to be fine.

[c0sie]

Originally Posted by migsy

i thought the novak GTB took the pi*s but losi went the extra mile i'd say.
just give me castle creations mamba max anytime.

all best..migsy.

Because we all know that sensorless is the way forward...

[Darren Boyle]

I chose to ignore the Mamba comment Cris for that same reason.

Having just spoke to Ryan at Horizon this afternoon regarding a few issues on a Losi Clutch and a helicopter, has has also just informed me that he has just had a fair number of Xcelorins tested today (four were from us) and three quarters of them are all being sent back to the users with no fault found, some of them (the ones concerning our customers) we were told had been uploaded with the latest firmware and when tested by Horizon they were still running the old version not ther latest.

As I have siad, yes there are a "few" going back at presnet but more than is neccasary since many of them are working as they should when tested. Our four are all coming back to us today or tommorow and will be re-shipped to their owners.

New Technology is a great thing but it can be a pain when it is not user friendly and/or the owner is not using it as they are supposed to.

[migsy]

not at all, the mamba-max is just a far better system and i will say in confidence that : i am not the only one that will say that.

[Darren Boyle]

The mamba system and its sensorless technology is great for recreational and bashing use but is not the choice for racers who require the smoother, precise low end control of a sensored system (regardless of what make it is)

[henga]

I've had more problems with getting the speedo to remember settings.
I set up the speedo on my computer and then read the settings to make sure the speedo was set correctly. According to the computer the speedo took the setting I wanted ok. I went to my local track for a practice and the car just crawled along as if it had been set to 10% throttle. Luckily I had the quick programing card with me and set the throttle to 80% and it worked ok. A couple of days later at a race meeting I decided to change some settings at the track with the programing card I started a race and within a couple of laps the car was cutting out and then back in again as my previous post. I later tried to reset the speedo with the programing card and it worked ok. This is with the latest Firmware and all other hints provided above. (30 second wait ect.) It seems that it will sometimes take the correct settings and sometimes it won't. (Depends what kind of mood the speedo is in when you try to program it.) I've tried to talk nicely to the speedo but that doesn't work either.

Alex

[Darren Boyle]

Alex, out of interest are you running yours with a 2.4ghz radio?

[henga]

Yes. A T3VC with a Spekrum module SM1001 and a SM3001 receiver.

[Darren Boyle]

Thought so, try it with your module removed (ie on 40mahz) or can you turn off the HRS mode on the radio? If you can, I am certian this will cure your problem altogether.

[Spencer Mulcahy]

I have been running this speedo since it was released and I have nothing but praise for it never put a foot wrong and for the price you cant go wrong. I put the update on last night very easy to do and I am computer eliterate. It seems people are changing the setting for no reason once I have set mine and I am happy I leave it alone.

[henga]

Originally Posted by DMS Racing

Thought so, try it with your module removed (ie on 40mahz) or can you turn off the HRS mode on the radio? If you can, I am certian this will cure your problem altogether.

Thanks for the advice.
I'm not too sure if I have HRS mode on my radio as i've never heard of it, could be wrong though. I don't really want to go back to 40mhz (I don't really want to start changing crystals again and was even getting interference with 40mhz at my local track). If this turns out to be the problem I will just have to ditch the Losi setup.

[Darren Boyle]

It wont be that drastic, Losi are working on the 2.4 ghz bug, it is a known problem with only a small number of radio/speedo options

[RcRob]

One Horizon product not working with another Horizon product is poor testing imho

[Darren Boyle]

Its not the Spektrum that is the problem, it is the donor handsets that are causing the problems (KO, Futaba etc)

[tiny tom]

Well I am running the ko propo 2.4 ghz with my xcelorin, I had a issuse with it not hitting top speed. But spoke to a losi driver at the eden park and he said that I put more brake on the ko, reset the speedo and didn't have a problem since. And the speedo didn't put a foot wrong, a shame the car

[MHeadling]

I got my speedo back today from Horizon, they replaced my one. Thanks Horizon!