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Grading formula 5 9.26%
Years experience 7 12.96%
Sponsors 8 14.81%
Nothing 4 7.41%
Other stuff 6 11.11%
Just don't care 36 66.67%
Name and past achievements 3 5.56%
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And my the way the reason for the thread is if you look back 2 years ago there were far more comments and help from lets say talented drivers than I see these days.....
TBH, being a talented driver is one thing, knowing what you are talking about is something else altogether.

Fr'instance, I used to work as a mechanic for one of the UKs top road cyclists, to this day i wouldn't trust him to pump up a pair of tyres (ok, i *probably* would now, took me 2 years to train him up though). He had utterly no idea about bike set up or technology.
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If its not in the sigs then have some extra stuff where you have
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I think some are getting the wrong idea to the debate.

A grading clearly state the caliber of driver making a comment

Dads, mechanics and so on of course have knowledge but is it not fair identifying that knowledge and us racer acknowledging it too!!

Its not about gradings, its about identification of who is making a comment or a statement, hence the signature question.

Its also doesn't have to be policed or anything like that but more of a thing to do rather than have to scenario.

And my the way the reason for the thread is if you look back 2 years ago there were far more comments and help from lets say talented drivers than I see these days.....

I personally like to I know who i am talking to which the majority of the time is not disclosed
so if dave spashett, drescher grainger came on here and have no ranking (f5) you would doubt thier answer? a real name would sort it out...
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Tony you and I had a good couple of scraps when I used to race a mad monkey at torch. Maybe you'll remember us trading places twice in the last 15 feet of an a
A final a couple of years ago :-) battleing for 3rd iirc.

With the suggestions above my sig could be along the following:

Ben Elliott, multiple tamiya euro cup champion and former kyosho works BRCA touring car driver. 5th in 1999 touring car euros.

To be frank though I don't thinks its necessary and Whilst the euros trophy still sits proudly on my office shelf I don't think it needs to be displayed under every post I put on here.
EXACT my point Ben...I know who you are but I would bet a hell of a lot of money 98% of the people on here don't know your ability or your past achievements, therefore, when you decide to give someone a small bit of advice, something you clearly have experience in, he might dismiss it as he or she feels it hasn't come from some known source to give that advice.
Then of course you get a opposite scenario.


Mark that is the point, if Craig comes here and says something, as an 11 time European champion and his name in his sig, it is very unlikely in my opinion someone would listen to his advice rather than if his name was lets say, 'money=grows-on-trees' and no signature with his name, then no one will actually listen, care and so on.

You are all actually saying the very same thing as i am.....surely!!
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In other words Tony is saying the high calibre techincal based driver input has ceased to be put on oople, and there are more knobbers commentating on all issues they might not have the history or experience off!!!! (My tale!)

Oople I'm guessing has grown shed loads in that time frame, hits and users, so it's the way of all forums. Forums ebb and flow, like the flotsam and jetsam, people come and go but the bigger they get, the more they can get diluted.
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It has been brought to my attention that some people may have been offended by my thread/post here.

It is far from meant to be anything of the sort.
The thread is suppose to open debate to whether we require/need some sort of identification when giving advice to people.
This does NOT mean that a F1 driver can give better advise than a Dad or a mechanic or anyone else. Its just a matter of recognising who is giving advice rather than the 11 year old that has been racing 2 weeks and thinks he is better than Neil Cragg.

The signature is of course a choice and I am far from saying it is mandatory either.......

We all have opinions and all come from different backgrounds and obviously have different knowledge and experiences but when giving advice on set ups and so on, that some people are desperate for, then surely we need to be giving the person reading that advice the source of where its coming from

And please before anyone shoots me down........its only my opinion
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I can understand the reason for this thread and mi not opposed to it, but my profile is my profile. We can choose what info we wish to show on it, or not. Most of the time I sign off new thread's with my actual name, but to be fair alot of people know me already (be it in a good or bad way..meh).

Perhaps the actual profile itself could have some detail in it, but keep the signature for what the user wants to do with it, to personalise it their own way. If you have sponsors it's great to show in it if you want to, likewise if you have achieved something and want to share it, do so.

It really is simply a personal thing.
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Tony I know what you mean, I answer questions, many prob think I talk bollocks because they have no idea of my past and what I have done.
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In other words Tony is saying the high calibre techincal based driver input has ceased to be put on oople, and there are more knobbers commentating on all issues they might not have the history or experience off!!!! (My tale!)

Oople I'm guessing has grown shed loads in that time frame, hits and users, so it's the way of all forums. Forums ebb and flow, like the flotsam and jetsam, people come and go but the bigger they get, the more they can get diluted.
Chris Doughty answers questions on here as does Adam Skelding. Lee Martin answers questions on here. There are plenty of top drivers here - some say not much. I'm not sure JQ has ever posted but he's a member. A lot of top drivers don't want to get into forums.

Anyway - I'm going to mix things up when I've made alterations to the website to reward those professional / top drivers that do help and do post by promoting them (and their sponsors) more highly.
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I think the sig should have your real name instead of hiding behind user names other than that not to fussed if people want to take your advice when posting comments fair enough if they don't they don't aleast you know who it's come from
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because they have no idea of my past and what I have done.
£10 says it's not Pamela Anderson

Sorry Mark, couldn't resist and you know we enjoy your talking bollocks really!
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If people put their real names in that would be helpful especially in the club forums when people say they are coming out to race but have no idea who they really are...

The rest is just fluff..

maybe a 'thanked' rating that you see on other forums?
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Does the extra characters on sig's warrant the extra space required on the backend SQL server for the forum? Would this increase the running costs for the forum over time?

Might not seem much, but effectivly it would be as if everyone was double posting with their reply then the sig. Just a thought though.
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[QUOTE=MatJohnson;739645]Does the extra characters on sig's warrant the extra space required on the backend SQL server for the forum? Would this increase the running costs for the forum over time?
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And I've just thought, its actually incorrect It wouldn't make a difference to the size of the database per post because they are stored seperatly

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I fully agree with having your real name displayed either in the sig or as your username, thats why my name is there, which has been said helps newbies find you at club meets or events etc.

as for gradings, that doesnt really help, ive been an F4 for 3yrs and racing for 6yrs, fixing and setting up customers rtr vehicles for 7yrs and a general dogs body mechanic since i was 13
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I'd just like to point out that Tony's sig is 700x101 yet:

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I stand by my original post, this thread is absolutely pointless. Its impossible to police any kind of signature requirements, and due to my job, it would mean that I'd have to stop posting on oOple. I cannot have my real name associated with forums.

No, I'm not a spy.

Forums are designed to have a level of anonymity, they are supposed to allow the dissemination/discussion of ideas, and to a certain extent, arguments and disagreements. The whole point is that the anonymity allows people to discuss things in a blame free, fault free environment, and its the job of the moderators to moderate that which exceeds the boundaries of the designated "fight lines"

Why in the name of all Zeus's big fat hairy arsehole would I want to put my real name on one? You might get my first name, but surname? Not a bloody chance.

If you dont like what someone has posted, tell them so, if you disagree, tell them, 1 race or 1 million races, doesnt matter, you can still be wrong. Oh and the point about Craggy's knowledge being worth more than mine? No it isnt, I'm from the correct side of the Pennines... :P But, as is usual, I digress...
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I put my real name in as my forum name, I have nothing to hide!
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