Front wheel drive buggy?

[RogerM]

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

what where they like where they faster than conventional 2wds?

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And Ashley proves once and for all that he knows nothing about vehical dynamics!!!!

[Doomanic]

Originally Posted by RogerM

And Ashley proves once and for all that he knows nothing about vehical dynamics!!!!

And Roger proves he can't spoll

[SHY]

Originally Posted by terry.sc

There's also this Ryuz FF that could lap faster than Masami at the Japanese nats in the early 90s, so they were certainly competitive when developed.

and this http://www.geocities.jp/feriocruise/.../poprod2b.html is of a fwd buggy that won in 1988 in Japan due to the dirt tracks they usedThey didn't spin out easily like all the rwds did on dirt surfaces with the hard tyres we were using at the time, so were easier to drive. As we never really raced on such low grip surfaces in the UK they have never had any potential here. Unless we go back to the ice rink like surface that was Romsey in '87 (where the first prototype fwds appeared to be quick) then fwd will usually lose out to rwd.

Fwd is banned from IFMAR competitions because the rules state the surface must be natural (no astroturf) and it must last for a weeks racing, so they are usually on hard packed dirt so usually not much grip. Try driving a dirt track with the hardest tyres in your pitbox to give you an idea of how tricky it was when the rules was made. They were banned to prevent racers needing a fwd and rwd car depending on track surface and conditions before they had a chance to be developed to be competitive. Banning them saves every racer having to buy one of each just in case so no one has an advantage, the same reason they banned LRPs sensored traction control system.

Whoa! That Ryuz and that Wave(?) car looks absolutely stunning!!! Now there's some seriously good craftmanship! The bodyshell of the Wave reminds me a bit of the Atomized B44 shell. Whilst the Ryuz looks like a Paris-Dakar buggy! Keep'em coming guys!!!

Edit: These cars were only concept cars right? (never mass produced)

Edit 2: That Wave car's even got the battery pack in the center, great stuff!!!

[Alfonzo]

That looks the absolute business. What a great piece of work, doesn't matter if it goes well - just look at the damn thing!

[SHY]

How about putting together a "task force" and try and make our own virtual museum? You guys are very knowledgeable I must say!

We can use my web. I've already collected a lot for 1:8 TR cars:
http://www.ymr.no/1_8trackbiler.htm
-you must check out Carlsson!!!

There's some links on the bottom of the page. None of them are complete enough IMHO. How about making a LARGE one?

See also www.ymr.no/historie.htm
(norwegian only but lots of pics and videos)

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by SHY

Whoa! That Ryuz and that Wave(?) car looks absolutely stunning!!! Now there's some seriously good craftmanship! The bodyshell of the Wave reminds me a bit of the Atomized B44 shell. Whilst the Ryuz looks like a Paris-Dakar buggy! Keep'em coming guys!!!

Edit: These cars were only concept cars right? (never mass produced)

Edit 2: That Wave car's even got the battery pack in the center, great stuff!!!

The 'Wave' car is called the Poprod mk2, named as it's a modern replica of the original car which raced in the 80s. The body is a Tamiya Winger, made as an alternative body for the Boomerang. The Poprod was designed and built by Grahoo, who has built many interesting cars over time and is a great bloke. BTW the RYUZ uses an RCL Incident body.

Both were just one offs, although there's a lot of the RYUZ design that made it into the Yokomo YRF-2.

[terry.sc]

Originally Posted by SHY

How about putting together a "task force" and try and make our own virtual museum? You guys are very knowledgeable I must say!

I'm involved with http:/www.tamiyaclub.com, unfortunately there's a lot newer Tamiyas getting in the way of all the historic stuff in there these days. Search for any make of car and there's usually one there.

[SHY]

Good point, thx! I've visited that site many times. And come to think about it there's so incredibly many 1:10 OR cars...

Anyways, you guys sure have done your homework!

[Gayo]

Back in 1991, here in France all the hype was about home-made FWD cars. On loose, dusty tracks, they were unbeatable (sp ) and on a crash, the FWD car always stayed on the track...

Didier Albuisson's Sauterelle (Grasshopper), heavily inspired by those jap protos. It was basically the rear half of an RC10 Team car going backwards, with those loooong rear arms :


Frank Moreau's Lazer :

Blurry pics by Thomas Fresne

[OldTimer]

A CF version of the Ryuz FF would be cool, would be fun to run it against the current 2wd's

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by OldTimer

A CF version of the Ryuz FF would be cool, would be fun to run it against the current 2wd's

How about doing this to a B4 rear end then JC?

[SHY]

Just Do It!!!