Newcastle R.C. Racers @ TyneMet

[cheapskate]

Originally Posted by dexter24

I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............

thats a hell of alot more than some do dexter, didnt realise you lived so far away mate

[MR ANDERSON]

Originally Posted by dexter24

I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............

im the same, i havnt got a clue how to set the track up and feel i get in the way, once the layout is set up i try to help and tape the track together and matthew is only 7 but i send him out to collect old tape from the track so matt does his bit, especially afterward hes a great little helper by pulling the track over and bringing tyres in so i hope its ok when we turn up a bit late as we try to make up for it the rest of the night

[hazzelarator]

Lol I was just joking about 'fining people' See you all later

[cheapskate]

A good nights racing tonight. not as hectic as last week..... we even had a break before the finals
Good to have Ray back racing and well done to Peter coming 2nd and 3rd in the A finals

[Steven Forster]

were there many buggies racing tonight ??? couldnt make it tonight as working late shift

[cheapskate]

Originally Posted by dexter24

were there many buggies racing tonight ??? couldnt make it tonight as working late shift

think there was only 4

[MR ANDERSON]

Originally Posted by cheapskate

A good nights racing tonight. not as hectic as last week..... we even had a break before the finals
Good to have Ray back racing and well done to Peter coming 2nd and 3rd in the A finals

thank you thank you, does that mean the 10.5 is going back in lol,
yes good to see ray back with his kangaroo bateries (they kept jumping out lol ) was very enjoyable being in the A finals, hope i can make it in again next week.

[lazysurfer]

Well lads a bit quieter last night with only 14 racing - short of buggies down to a weekend meeting I guess.
Anyway it let us run 3 heats of no more than 5 and we even got a 10 min break before the finals to keep those of you who find the pace stressful happy.
Hopefully a few more next week - by which time I need to do some serious rebuilding of my car!!!!
With regard to track set up I find it works best if one person takes charge opf the layout and loosely throws the track into shape for others to tape, it does get confusing with a few all trying to design the track.

[beasty boys motorsport]

really enjoyed myself last night, managed 6 laps in first heat, then 9 in the second and 9 in the third...in the final 10 so i am improving, then on the last heat (reverse grid) my car kept spinning left, thats because i broke the left front drive shaft...i thought it was just my driving

[Steven Forster]

Originally Posted by beasty boys motorsport

really enjoyed myself last night, managed 6 laps in first heat, then 9 in the second and 9 in the third...in the final 10 so i am improving, then on the last heat (reverse grid) my car kept spinning left, thats because i broke the left front drive shaft...i thought it was just my driving

Glad to see your getting better and enjoying it............did you get any wheels and tyres sorted out to fit ???

[beasty boys motorsport]

Originally Posted by dexter24

Glad to see your getting better and enjoying it............did you get any wheels and tyres sorted out to fit ???

oh yes ive got a full selection of schumacher yellows

[Steven Forster]

Originally Posted by beasty boys motorsport

oh yes ive got a full selection of schumacher yellows

gonna give these yellow full spikes ago on monday see what they are like........

[beasty boys motorsport]

i ran on mini spikes last night as my full spikes are a bit hard, cant wait to get the b44 up and running now......but then again ive just bought another b44 roller with extra bodies and wings and spares which one to race and which one to use a spares

[cheapskate]

Originally Posted by MR ANDERSON

thank you thank you, does that mean the 10.5 is going back in lol,
yes good to see ray back with his kangaroo bateries (they kept jumping out lol ) was very enjoyable being in the A finals, hope i can make it in again next week.

no mate going to keep the 13.5 in for now and try tweaking the setup of the car..... plus ill get more than 3 weeks out of a set of tyres!!!!!

[lazysurfer]

Originally Posted by cheapskate

no mate going to keep the 13.5 in for now and try tweaking the setup of the car..... plus ill get more than 3 weeks out of a set of tyres!!!!!

3 weeks from a set of tyres - you are kidding right? I managed 9 at one point albeit in the summer when the track surface was really warm

[cheapskate]

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

3 weeks from a set of tyres - you are kidding right? I managed 9 at one point albeit in the summer when the track surface was really warm

Nope 3 weeks Mark,
Spoke to Chris Clark on monday and he give me some help with my setup which helped loads- 10.5 motors who needs em!!

[lazysurfer]

Well 17 racing last night with 9TC’s & 8 buggies.
1 new face on the track in Ellis Carr driving not too bad for his first time - making an effort to keep out of the way of the faster buggy lads - hopefully we’ll see him back again.
Just a reminder on the subject of being lapped guys - a few comments about the buggy heat last night as it was a bit busy with 8 racing.
The numbers weren’t the problem, people being lapped and trying to race the leaders was the problem. If you’re being lapped let the lead cars through by running wide on a corner, this costs both cars the least time. Please don’t try to race cars lapping you or try to re-pass them on the straight or at the next corner - especially in the buggy class where getting it wrong is far more likely to result in breaking something.

Anyway, on a positive note, good turn out again with equal nimbers in classes and I’m expecting numbers to increase with the dark nights and bad weather coming so it’s likely at this rate we’ll be back to racing 4 heats for the first time since I can’t remember.

See you all next Monday

[FastWheels]

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Well 17 racing last night with 9TC’s & 8 buggies.
1 new face on the track in Ellis Carr driving not too bad for his first time - making an effort to keep out of the way of the faster buggy lads - hopefully we’ll see him back again.

Also a mention that his Pit Crew Manager was a very enthusiastic and capable marshall (take note some others)

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Just a reminder on the subject of being lapped guys - a few comments about the buggy heat last night as it was a bit busy with 8 racing.
The numbers weren’t the problem, people being lapped and trying to race the leaders was the problem. If you’re being lapped let the lead cars through by running wide on a corner, this costs both cars the least time. Please don’t try to race cars lapping you or try to re-pass them on the straight or at the next corner - especially in the buggy class where getting it wrong is far more likely to result in breaking something.

But when you're racing you have to try to regain the advantage you have conceded to the extent your skill level will allow you to.

I noted these problems weren't witnessed in the TC as despite having only one more car there was 2 heats, allowing a split on skill differential.
Not having this split as seen in the buggy heat leads to damaged cars, frustration, and disenchantment for all the drivers.


At the same time the more experienced drivers need to realise there is equal right for the novice to enjoy their racing without constantly expecting to have a rear end shunt, have to constantly 'move over' or hear a grumble voiced when a mistake is made (after all where is the club without those new or novice drivers - and they have paid their money too!) so to encourage the novices, and why should the burden for the envisaged problem be placed on the shoulders of the least experienced drivers, maybe the most experienced drivers should be a little more forgiving and humble, or we could split the heat allowing the 'Elite'drivers an unrestricted Hot Race, that would put me in with the novices and I'm happy with that, the big stumbling point here would be the obsession with "loosing a round", now contrary to popular opinion it's not my platform to canvass reduce the number of races we can have, to the contrary I wish the night was longer but to balance the preference the TCs seem to have regarding the 'Skills' split with 2 heats and enhance the 'Experience' for those in the Buggy arena it would be advantageous to the buggy driver to have this heat/skill split

Another option to keep the 5 rounds would be to have the Buggy heat split and have 1 TC heat, now there's an option to try allowing both classes that wider enhanced experience.

but keeping in mind

“The best laid schemes o' mice and men Gang aft a-gley; And leave us naught but grief and pain For promised joy”

Originally Posted by lazysurfer

Anyway, on a positive note, good turn out again with equal nimbers in classes and I’m expecting numbers to increase with the dark nights and bad weather coming so it’s likely at this rate we’ll be back to racing 4 heats for the first time since I can’t remember.
See you all next Monday

One small point a number of people have commented on is the reverse grid, this puts the slowest drivers to the fore which then in turn tends to create mayhem at the first corner, personally I would prefer to start from my grid position this would then tend to ease the mayhem.

Good effort in keeping the club running smoothly Guys!!

[Ray Mac]

Jim's suggestion of alternating weeks for buggies and tc's splitting seems to be a decent option. It wouldn't hurt to try it for a couple of weeks or more. What does the rest of the gang think??

[beasty boys motorsport]

i agree with everything fastwheels has said if theres enough buggy drivers split the heats into ability, that way it would be benificial to people like me who are consentrating more on trying to make the thing go around the track rather that actually race, hopefully one day i will be quick enough to race with the elite, even if its the novices only who lose a race due to time im not bothered, i'd rather have 4 heats where i can hopefully improve my driving skills than have 5 heats where im having to watch out for faster drivers and move out there way incase i hit them, if im doing that i'll never improve, last monday we had 4 buggies and my driving was a lot better, this week with 8 my driving was rubbish as i was trying to get out of peoples way, but thats only my point of view