501X setup discussion

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Northy

Wouldn't you have to put the Durga 1 way in the 501 backwards, then you'd get no forward drive, and 4wd brakes?

Jimmy will confirm.

We're still waiting on an answer about your favourite screws.

Cheers,

G

Answer to the first question: Why would I want to do that?

Answer to the second question: I guess the durga titanium screws would
work or the rc screws stainless steel screws.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by B44&501xRacerEX

Answer to the first question: Why would I want to do that?

Answer to the second question: I guess the durga titanium screws would
work or the rc screws stainless steel screws.

Answer to your first question: - I was trying to tell you it wouldn't work BMag my man......

Answer to your screw staement: - I don't think that was on the list young fellow.......

[B44&501xRacerEX]

It worked for me. I just put it in and ran the car outside.
The Durga front one way is working, because I have alot of traction on the front tires.
I didnt run it aggressivly I just wanted to make sure it was in fact working.
It doesnt work for the original 501x, but I have the worlds edition.

[AaronR]

Originally Posted by B44&501xRacerEX

It doesnt work for the original 501x, but I have the worlds edition.

Oh, good God, like there's a difference?!

[Northy]

When you hold the car in your hand can you turn the front wheels forward very easily?

G

[Northy]

Bman,

I refer you to the block of text in the white box, in the middle of the two chassis pictures:

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/revie...ga/page04.html

G

[Carl Hughes]

Hello Jimmy,

Any chance you can give us your thoughts about the best items to put in my 501X World Edition.

I want to get them ordered

Many thanks
Carl Hughes

[AaronR]

What advise do you need? Brushless or brushed motor/ESC combo, NiMH cells vs. LiPo, Spektrum vs. crystal radio system? Give us an idea of what you are leaning towards and we can help you further.

[Carl Hughes]

Basically in a nut shell I want the best of everything on it... this is what a local model shop has suggested

1) Motor...Nosram Matrix ISTC speed controller and storm Evo 4.5t brushless motor....(The World Edition comes with a 91 tooth spur gear and a 15 tooth pinion gear, would this be suitable?)

2) Cells...Orion 4200 SHO 6 Cell battery.

3) Futaba BLS451 servo.

4) KO Espirit 3 Universe radio system.

5) Receiver...Not sure looking for advice.


Please help so I can order my items to finish it off

Many thanks everyone
Carl Hughes

[DaveG28]

Assuing the Nosram esc is their version of the sphere that sounds fine. Most people find 4.5 a bit much though, I think 5.5 is most popular in 4wd?

The orions are fine, good cells, not the highest capacity but a lot of top guys use them.

I've always liked futaba servo's so that will be fine

Never used KO, but Esprit 3 is meant to be top of the range I think?

Receiver, well for ease probably spektrum modules, no crystals to worry about!!

[Carl Hughes]

What cells would be better then?

[AaronR]

LiPo

Carl, back to your component choices, those are all just fine. Dave might be right by saying any brand 4.5 is going to have some serious zing to it. 6.5 or 5.5 might be a better choice and if you need more power, get a 4.5 later and keep your milder motor as a spare. Dave is also right by saying Spektrum, Futaba FAAST, Airtronics/Sanwa/KO 2.4 systems really save on headaches at larger events and virtually eliminate any chance of glitching. Since switching to the 4000mAh MaxAmps LiPo saddle pack, I will never, ever go back to NiMH cells. I have added some Tungsten weights in the rear to compensate for the lack of weight due to LiPo.

Take the time and browse through the 501X thread in the electric off-road forum on www.rctech.net too. Just ignore the bmag posts there and here on Jimmy's site PLEASE!

You also PM'd me about a setup. Post what kind of surface you will or are racing on and I'm sure we can help.

[Northy]

Originally Posted by Northy

Bman,

I refer you to the block of text in the white box, in the middle of the two chassis pictures:

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/revie...ga/page04.html

G

Hey, BNag, you hear me?
G

[rcracer]

he might be out racing pro's

[Northy]

Only score he's gonna get! lol

You have pm fella.

G

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Northy

When you hold the car in your hand can you turn the front wheels forward very easily?

G

Nope, it is working. Trust me. I see where this is going.
It works with the TA-05 pulley just not the other included pulley.
The included pulley DOESNT MATCH UP WITH THE BELT CORRECTLY.
But the TA-05 does and it's the one I've been using. It's 36 tooth, and the stock pulley is 37 tooth.

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Northy

Hey, BNag, you hear me?
G

Not a clue.
Been watching national treasure 2, sorry...

[Northy]

So you've fitted a pulley from a different car, with 1 tooth left to make it work?

Can you tell us about the glued diff again please?

G

[jimmy]

Originally Posted by Carl Hughes

Basically in a nut shell I want the best of everything on it... this is what a local model shop has suggested

1) Motor...Nosram Matrix ISTC speed controller and storm Evo 4.5t brushless motor....(The World Edition comes with a 91 tooth spur gear and a 15 tooth pinion gear, would this be suitable?)

2) Cells...Orion 4200 SHO 6 Cell battery.

3) Futaba BLS451 servo.

4) KO Espirit 3 Universe radio system.

5) Receiver...Not sure looking for advice.


Please help so I can order my items to finish it off

Many thanks everyone
Carl Hughes

I can only really tell you what I have in my 501X carl - the ISTC esc is good, I'm running the 2007 with a fan on top - so basically the same thing. I find the 6.5 motor too slow (slower than a 3star older motor) but the 5.5 is about perfect. If they have sintered rotors now then that might be different tho as mine is bonded and I found the 5.5 with sintered rotor to be just too powerful for me.
4.5 with any rotor inside at all is too much on 6 cells for me - you'll have more fun driving a car you can control than one you smash into pieces.

This ESC is big and with a normal servo I think you'll probably have to run the ESC so it overhangs the chassis - the shell and undertray stick out further so there's no real problem but I found it neater with a low profile servo - I use the KO low profile servo in my 501X just so I can make a neat install.

I have the ESC blocking the motor screws - so I cant remove the motor that easily. But I use the parma (?) clear double sided 'tape' which lets me remove the ESC and reinstall it without changing tape.. It's ace! only good for things like this tho, not smaller things (like switches) or things that aren't ever supposed to move like a servo.

As for pinions - you might as well get one or two sets of the 501X-specific pinions that tamiya released - they are longer than 'normal' pinions and make meshing a little easier. Not sure what sizes they come in but they come 2 to a bag. You want to be aiming for around 13:00 overall ratio on a 5.5 motor, maybe a little less for a 5.5 on sintered but these ratios are what Jurgen told me direct and I've always stuck to them even if its fairly conservative.

I've heard some negatives on the sho's but I've got some slingshot 4500mah cells which seem good.

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Originally Posted by Northy

So you've fitted a pulley from a different car, with 1 tooth left to make it work?

Can you tell us about the glued diff again please?

G

Aaron R can explain that better. It is on rctech if ya want to see it.
I hate RCtech though, the mod doesnt like me.