Any news on the Battery's for 08

[alrg500]

Originally Posted by Jim Spencer

Hi All

I new if I did enough rummaging i'd find this sort of post..
Cells under 3.7ah don't come under homologation at all anymore - you can use those at all events.
(See BRCA > Electric Board > Homologation > Batteries, rule 2.6)
Oddly I have a few packs of GP37's lying around somewhere - might have to dust them down..

Now that is the news I wanted to hear

[David Church]

Just a thought, but do you guys that are complaining alot actualy read the rules before complaining???
As it has just been said by Jim that 3700's are ok to use, now I didn't know this, I don't read the rules, but i try not to complain, well too much, lol.
So this should help out a fair few of ya!!!!!!! If you have 3700's that is, and if you do have 3700's and complained....well..... shame on you!!!

[OldTimer]

2.6 In addition to batteries included on the homologation list, sports/starter level packs of cells that do not have OEM heatshrink, will be allowed at BRCA sanctioned events. These packs must have the original suppliers label intact, stating that they are NiCd or NiMH and the pack capacity. Maximum capacity is 3700mah. These batteries will be allowed at sanctioned events from 1st. Jan. 2008.


So are taking it that the above means black and white that GP3700's are legal ?


As the way i read it yesterday our cells do have the OEM heatshrink so are not legal. And i would class the original suppliers label being some one like Losi / Fastrac etc not the oem ie GP.


It would be nice if PW would confirm if GP3700 are legal to be use at Nationals or not

David, some of us do read the rules, but they are not always clear lol.

[losixxx]

Originally Posted by Jim Spencer

2.6 In addition to batteries included on the homologation list, sports/starter level packs of cells that do not have OEM heatshrink, will be allowed at BRCA sanctioned events. These packs must have the original suppliers label intact, stating that they are NiCd or NiMH and the pack capacity. Maximum capacity is 3700mah. These batteries will be allowed at sanctioned events from 1st. Jan. 2008.

You can run any cell from 3.7AH down at ANY sanctioned events, Nationals, regionals etc etc etc

jim are you sure this doesnt mean the like's of stick packs etc as it states sports/starter level packs. i doubt matched gp3700's would be deemed sports pack's?

[Jim Spencer]

Originally Posted by losixxx

jim are you sure this doesnt mean the like's of stick packs etc as it states sports/starter level packs. i doubt matched gp3700's would be deemed sports pack's?

Nope, to my understanding the full stop in the middle of the rule differentiates it to mean..
You can have branded cells (joe bloggs racing etc etc) up to 3.7's and OEM marked ones too..
Perhaps not the clearest wording in the world though - will ask for it to be edited.

Though please bear in mind this has only come out today we're bound to find the odd typo..

[xx4-nutter]

Lets just have it done with and use duracells :P

[David Church]

Originally Posted by OldTimer

2.6 In addition to batteries included on the homologation list, sports/starter level packs of cells that do not have OEM heatshrink, will be allowed at BRCA sanctioned events. These packs must have the original suppliers label intact, stating that they are NiCd or NiMH and the pack capacity. Maximum capacity is 3700mah. These batteries will be allowed at sanctioned events from 1st. Jan. 2008.


So are taking it that the above means black and white that GP3700's are legal ?


As the way i read it yesterday our cells do have the OEM heatshrink so are not legal. And i would class the original suppliers label being some one like Losi / Fastrac etc not the oem ie GP.


It would be nice if PW would confirm if GP3700 are legal to be use at Nationals or not

David, some of us do read the rules, but they are not always clear lol.

True Johnathon, got me there, but I would just say cut the plastic heatshrink off????

[RogerM]

up to 3700s are ok .... DAMN!!!!

I was hoping the cell rules would mean less people would apply for nationals so I'd have a better chance of getting in!!!!!

[dave p hall]

sorry to sound thickbut never heared the term (oem heat shrink)is this the heatshrink on an individual cell,or the heatshrink which covers the whole pack,which is on preasembled stick packswould just like to know as im considering sanyo's 3600 competion spec loose cellsreason being,i think the high capacity's 4200 etc... are part of the problem with cell failures.to much for the cells to acomodate

[Mike Hudson]

Originally Posted by dave p hall

sorry to sound thickbut never heared the term (oem heat shrink)is this the heatshrink on an individual cell,or the heatshrink which covers the whole pack,which is on preasembled stick packswould just like to know as im considering sanyo's 3600 competion spec loose cellsreason being,i think the high capacity's 4200 etc... are part of the problem with cell failures.to much for the cells to acomodate

this is the macufacturer heatshrink already on the cells i believe correct me if im wrong

[Wraggy]

OEM = original equipment manufacturer

[David Church]

Originally Posted by Wraggy

OEM = original equipment manufacturer

Do you think running these cells without the heatshrink helps them run cooler? Is this why they say without heatshrink????
But all is making much more sense now, haha

[mark christopher]

Originally Posted by smokin

Unfortunately (well fortunately depending on how you look at it) looks that another major line will have to be drawn maybe 2010 ? for lipo, what do you guys think...?

why wait till 2010? TC have em now!

Originally Posted by ashleyb4

i think im going to prepose lipo for 2009

A

good on you ash

Originally Posted by losixxx

excellent ash, what were they like when you ran them in your 10th??

ask Chris Doughty, Neil Cragg, Tom Cockerill. Chris long all ran em at worksop and made the A, Neil won too and added no weight to the car!!

[super__dan]

Originally Posted by Jim Spencer

Nope, to my understanding the full stop in the middle of the rule differentiates it to mean..
You can have branded cells (joe bloggs racing etc etc) up to 3.7's and OEM marked ones too..Perhaps not the clearest wording in the world though - will ask for it to be edited.

Though please bear in mind this has only come out today we're bound to find the odd typo..

See above in bold

[losixxx]

Originally Posted by super__dan

See above in bold

that's jim's interpretation of the rule. not the actual wording! i don't think it means that, i would say gp3700's etc matched are not legal just sports/clubman packs ie stick packs however i would wait for confirmation from the BRCA

[_JP_]

OMG I just had to get a pack back out of the fire, they made good firecrackers!

LOL

[super__dan]

Removed as I was wrong (put it in your diarries).

[losixxx]

Originally Posted by super__dan

But doesn't Jim write the rules, so it's his interpretation that matters?

not if his interpretation is wrong!

[Chrislong]

Originally Posted by losixxx

not if his interpretation is wrong!

But how can it be wrong, if he wrote the rules? Surely he isn't just the typist, so he likely thought about them too.

[OldTimer]

I thought Paul Worsley was the BRCA Electric Board Homologation Officer, i would guess he wrote the rules but i could be wrong